US Politics on Sidechat | Ok so it’s universally understood that Isreal hates Arabs. How then are there so many people who we would call Arab here in America fighting in the IDF? Is it just the Uncle Tom effect?

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Ok so it’s universally understood that Isreal hates Arabs. How then are there so many people who we would call Arab here in America fighting in the IDF? Is it just the Uncle Tom effect?

3 upvotes, 9 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in US Politics. "Ok so it’s universally understood that Isreal hates Arabs. How then are there so many people who we would call Arab here in America fighting in the IDF? Is it just the Uncle Tom effect?"

Anonymous 1w

For some I’m sure it’s a sense of patriotism, for others it’s just economic benefits and social mobility. Rhodesia and apartheid South Africa had black soldiers too. IIRC among Israeli Arabs, the Bedouins are the ones who are most commonly involved in the military, though that’s declined in recent years.

Anonymous 1w

Same reason ppl here join our military, tuition and benefits

Anonymous 1w

That’s a really stupid and unserious argument. But while we’re talking about Arabs in Israel here are some fun facts. Not only are there displaced Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank but also in the present day borders of Israel. They’re called the present absentees and they have annual marches of return where they march to the places where their homes used to be

Anonymous

#1 1w

Believe it or not Arabs are the only group in Israel not legally required to serve in the IDF but volunteers are offered handsome stipends

Anonymous

#2 1w

Of course, it’s a good thing they stayed in Israel’s borders because people who fled to Gaza and the West Bank and tried to come back to their houses (known as ‘infiltrators’) were shot in the head on return

Anonymous

#1 1w

It would be genuinely suicidal for Israel to legally require Arabs to enlist in an army where they’re being asked to kill other Arabs who often share a nationality with them. That is just as easily a reasonably intelligent policy choice as it is some kind of selfless act

Anonymous

#2 1w

Like IDF soldiers smuggle weapons to militias already. Can you imagine how often that would happen if the Israeli government was enlisting Palestinians to kill other Palestinians?

Anonymous

#2 1w

But let’s not forget that there are Arab Jews (or Mizrachim if you prefer) living in Israel! Did you know that there were incidents of Mizrachi children being sprayed with pesticides upon entering Israel? Did you know that many Mizrachi families had their children taken from them to live with Ashkenazim? Did you know that Israeli radio stations didn’t play the music that Mizrachim listened to on the radio for a long time, or that they lived in shanty towns on top of land mines?

Anonymous

#3 1w

The U.S. currently has a shit ton of Black and Latino soldiers and any serious person who calls Israel and apartheid state extends that critique to here, too. The same country that sends armed thugs (who sometimes using tactics they learned from the IDF) to kill its own citizens sends those same citizens to die in the desert for its own selfish interests