Anonymous #1 1d

so you think democracy’s a sham

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Anonymous OP 1d

Not sure where you got that. But to your question we’re living under a failing democracy that is starting to resemble some sort of plutocracy or oligarchy, we’ve never been a true democracy but it’s getting way worse way quicker now

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Anonymous #1 1d

I still think you should go vote tho, it can’t hurt and can only help

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Anonymous #1 1d

i think if 75%+ of all people in the US suddenly agreed on smth it would show itself in policy. especially if its something mundane that doesnt challenge the status quo like in my example. the issue is that u cant get 75% of all people to agree on anything new without playing tricks and games like meme warfare or subconscious messaging

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Anonymous OP 1d

Eh I disagree. I think over 75% of people would support banning lawmakers from stock trading but the powers that be aren’t motivated to change that. There are plenty of things that the majority of us want that will never happen because we aren’t really in control

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Anonymous #1 1d

you’re only thinking of 75% of the people you’ve interacted with, whether that be the people around you or people online, but my point is the REAL masses are fucking stupid. there are a lot more simple minded people in this world that rational. and those people either dont care, cant understand, or will never hear about any new message u try to unify people on

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Anonymous OP 1d

Nah I think points like my above example are so glaringly obvious that even those folks get it. Most Americans can identify such blatant corruption

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Anonymous #1 1d

no genuinely think about every single person. the elderly, the illiterate, the completely brainwashed, the extremely poor nearly completely excluded from the world, and those who simply cant follow strains of logic or form new ideas we dont rlly know what the exact numbers are but id say its fair to assume 25% of people would be unwilling to sit down and listen to you explain why its logical to think this way

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Anonymous OP 1d

Yeah I just think it’s been shown consistently that a few things like my example are popular among like 75+% of the people here with is huge in such a diverse country

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Anonymous #1 1d

its been shown that is popular among people who take political polls online

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Anonymous OP 1d

Not necessarily. Any large scale political opinion polling worth its weight will have adjusted for sampling bias. I’m sure there are some poor quality ones that suffer from the issue you’re describing tho

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Anonymous #1 1d

are you suggesting these polls are conducted entirely offline too? because a key point im making is that 1. not everyones online and 2. not everyones on the internet enough to participate in it like you and i….. some people may only use google or use it for games but never actually engage with it. so they may never come across the option to participate jn a poll

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Anonymous OP 1d

Yeah I’m saying there are algorithms you can use to adjust for known trends. You can proportionally scale up inputs given by people whose demographics (non internet users for example) are underrepresented to get a better picture of the actual trends. That’s how you can get a decent picture of American opinions overall while getting the majority of data from online surveys. Just standard data analysis procedural stuff that most of these larger studies do. Like I said tho plenty of the lower

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Anonymous #1 1d

Quality studies probably don’t get into that and do misrepresent things

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Anonymous #1 1d

but scaling up input from these communities doesnt give us the accurate read we’re talking about. cause we’re wondering whether a 75% majority of people 1. can understand new concepts if laid out correctly 2. care enough to listen 3. even want to change their mind

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