Anonymous #2 1w

Huh?

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

What does that got to do with anything

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Research it and you’ll see the answer to your question

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I know what the ying and yang is, what does that have to do with my post

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

So that’s your justification? Something from like thousands of years ago? What a pathetic man.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It’s thousands of years old but is still true today

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It’s also more complicated than wanting a “submissive” wife. It’s a partnership

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Except it really isn’t. Having a partner that has no input in the relationship and minimal control creates massive issues

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s not partnership. It’s subjugation to one persons whim.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Both sides give and take

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

What exactly is the man giving in a relationship where the woman is submissive? And you can’t really same money or resources if the women doesn’t have any say on what she wants to do as an occupation.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

A submissive woman doesn’t mean a woman without freedom. You should ask women why they want a husband who can take care of her

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

As submissive woman IS a woman without freedom. And the reality that a lot of women these days, don’t want a husband who can take care of them because they can take care of themselves already. Relationships are a lot more than that these days.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

What about a sexually submissive woman, but she also where’s the pants and makes all da moneys

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Anonymous #3 1w

WEARS

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Anonymous #3 1w

I didn’t mean sexuality. But even then yin and yang would still apply

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Submissive doesn’t mean without freedom. It’s a give and take like I said

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Brother ying and yang is not the answer to everything 💀

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Except it’s not, unless you don’t know what submissive means in a relationship.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

And even with your Ying and Yang example, why is passivity something that’s inherently supposed to be feminine?

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It’s not the answer to everything but it helps bring clarity to a lot of things, especially necessary opposites like man and woman

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Except I don’t think it actually does bring a lot of clarity to things especially here where you treat relationship dynamics like black or white. The idea that men and women are necessary opposites is very narrow minded

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Like a big buff body building WOMAN 😤

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Anonymous #3 1w

Honestly? Based on

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Sounds like you agree with me but you think submissive is just a flat idea of going against your own personal wants for someone else. It’s actually more complicated

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

That’s exactly what submissive means. You have one person who holds disproportionately far more power and decision making in the relationship than the other person.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Men and women are necessary opposites. They are not the same, but both need each other. The contrast is the beauty to it

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Maybe there’s a submissive will to power, like the clergy did to make us big desiring fightingest MEN STOP KILLING AND CONQUERING and start feeling bad for doing so 😔

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

If you talk to people who consider themselves submissive you’ll learn it’s not that simple

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Men and women aren’t inherently opposites and that is such a reductive take on human nature and relationship dynamics

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I have, literally see it in some parts of my family. It’s fucking horrible 💀

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Explain how men and women aren’t opposites

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I think the onus would be on you to explain why men and women are opposites.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It’s self evident tbh

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

To give you a very general answer to your question it’s because I think that men and women come in many different types of personalities and behaviors to the point where it is impossible to say that they are perfect foils of each other.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

When they do math, they both get the right answer 🧐 the divine logos is in us all

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Uh huh sure.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Personalities and behaviors reflect our genders

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

They are influenced by socialization and cultural norms, yes but again that doesn’t make men and women opposites of each other. in fact, differences and personalities, Yender’s aren’t even uniform across the globe so to say that you can have a concrete opposite for both men and women is difficult to say.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Socialization and cultural norms. And even more importantly biological differences

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

*between genders.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

I said gender but what I meant was male and female

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Not necessarily, I would say studies show that cultural influence and socialization plays a much bigger role than purely biological differences. Your justification also only applies to heterosexual relationships and not homosexual relationships so it doesn’t really work.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Cultural influence and socialization stem from biological differences

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Again, not necessarily true and that’s again super reductive.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s mostly because of environmental social and learned factors not biological determinism.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It is true. All that stuff comes from environment which is primarily your biological wiring

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

That’s nowhere close to being true whatsoever.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It’s actually both

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s not. biological determinism has been largely discredited for the differences in human behaviors, especially between both sexes

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It hasn’t been discredited, it’s also self evident

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I think that Margaret Mead lady wrote this book called coming of age in Samoa where men in the culture were catty and prone to gossip, which we might consider more of a womanly thing to do

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Anonymous #3 1w

Interesting

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

There’s just way too many cultural variations in the expected behaviors between both men and women to assume that they are biologically determined. You are subscribing to a very outdated philosophy.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

She also claimed that rape didn’t exist there until Europeans came, which I dunno how she could verify that but that would be interesting

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

I didn’t say we are just biologically determined. It’s not

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s both

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Anonymous #3 1w

That can’t be true at all. I think some of the earliest anthropological evidences of human conflict in Africa point to the opposite but I could be wrong

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s not both, biological differences contributes very little to expectations around gendered behavior.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Samoa ain’t in Africa

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Anonymous #3 1w

Just that particular place she was in is all not like errywheres

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Anonymous #3 1w

Ohhh wait I misread ur comment. I thought u said the concept of rape didn’t exist at all until Europeans arrived everywhere l and I was like that cannot be true 💀

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It is both. Biological differences are the base that all things are built on and it starts when you are being formed in your mother

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s quite literally not my man. You can keep saying it is over and over again, but the evidence points exactly to the opposite.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

No it doesn’t the evidence points to it being both

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Nope

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

And even if it did (which again biological determinism is a fallacy) the idea that “a woman is naturally passive” is not a good justification for submissive relationships in the year 2026.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Debunked

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Also my stance is that nurture places a far far more dominating role in gendered behaviors especially. You didn’t even bother to specify that in your search 💀

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Even your own source proves me correct

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Now my sources say that socialization plays a far greater role in the sex based differences in behavior. Nice try

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Goalpost moved. Thank you for admitting I’m right

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Brother that’s always been my argument. 💀

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Also your statement that you screenshot it doesn’t say that it’s both you say that biological differences are the bases that all things are built on— that’s not the same as saying it’s both nature and nurture.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Red herring. You just contradicted yourself. Also, it is both AND culture comes after biology, yes

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

See that’s where we disagree. Culture doesn’t come after biology, saying that means you inherently don’t know what nature vs nurture is

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

You already discredited yourself by saying you didn’t disagree when I said it’s both. Can you stop lying?

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Your argument relies on biological determinism since it maintains that culture is a result of biological differences or at the very least inferior. My argument is that culture plays a the significantly larger role THAN biology.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Except you didn’t say it’s both.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

“Biology differences are the base that all things are built on” is not saying it’s both. If you want to talk about something be contradictory then there you go.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Like this is literally a biological deterministic argument

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

That’s true. Biology comes first. It’s also true that it’s both, which I said, which you claimed (lied) you said but really you changed your argument. Why can’t you stop lying?

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I’m not lying as per my previous screenshots. And you can’t see it’s both when you say that biology is the basis of socialization or that it comes first. That’s not saying it’s both. Really the only person who changed the argument here was you. You initially stated that it was solely because of biology then you somehow decided to change it to well it’s both and now you’re saying that they both are reconcilable viewpoints which they aren’t.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

You’re lying because you said you said not but the screenshots prove you made the positive claim it’s not both

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Okay then respond to the screenshot I last said. Where did I say it’s not both in my first statement.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

*sent

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Also still doesn’t ignore that you don’t even follow that’s it’s both argument. You clearly support biological determinism.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

I already sent you it.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

I know you’re desperate to run from this point because it proves you’re a liar, but I won’t let you

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

No you didn’t

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Oh buddy I’m not letting you run from the fact you changed your argument halfway through

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It was you who changed the argument after I proved you wrong. Now you’re lying about it. Why can’t you admit you’re wrong? Why keep lying?

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Can’t we all just hug this one out

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Saying that I’m lying repeatedly isn’t gonna change the past conversation and what u said Brochacho

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I’m saying your second sentence was false dude. I’ve been saying it’s both since we first started and you swapped your stance halfway

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Also your statement is contradictory

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

It’s very simple. You directly and explicitly said it is not both. You even said the evidence proves it. Now after I proved to you it was both, you’re LYING and saying you’ve always said it was both. Don’t bother deleting the messages now btw, I already got the screenshots

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Yeah you had to SWITCH your position after I proved you wrong. Now you’re lying and said you’ve always had it. It’s really sad considering the screenshots prove you’re a liar

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s the exact OPPOSITE and you did such a bad job of switching your position that your current argument inherently contradicts itself. Can’t expect much from you tho unfortunate

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

You’re hilarious. I’ve never changed my position. You can’t run from the truth

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

“It’s quite literally not both” can you please enlighten us on what else it could possibly mean?

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Biology comes first. That’s a fact. It’s also a fact that it’s both. I’ve explained this to you twice now but your brain can’t understand. Starting to think you’re a bot

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I said “it’s quite literally not man” in reference to your second sentence. You’re just making up shit rn 💀

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

If you think biology comes first then you inherently cannot think it’s both. You’re contradicting yourself.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Those sentences are together. You can’t separate them. You’re a liar and it’s pathetic

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Like I’m sorry you’re too idiotic to understand what biological determinism is but then again you were a maga commie so it’s not like you were super smart to begin with

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

So you’re influenced by your environment before you’re even conceived? Got it 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

You’ve thoroughly lost this debate. Enjoy the L

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I can separate them that’s why they’re separate sentences sweetheart.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Bless your heart

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

They’re the same meaning in 2 sentences sweetheart

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

I accept your defeat

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

No, please refer to me og statement

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

No they’re not sweetie but it’s okay, you tried. Good job.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Defeat? Lmao, nice one.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

See how you contradict yourself?

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Your IQ is really high

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Thanks for admitting it. It really is, glad to see you coming around.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Only thing contradictory here is your viewpoint sir.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

My viewpoint has remained the same. You can’t even reply to my points

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

I already did reply to your points, man you’re right my IQ is higher than yours. I feel bad for you.

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

And your viewpoint has changed.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Wrong

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s okay bro, denial is the first stage of grief you’ll get to acceptance soon

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

I explained 3 times how my viewpoint is consistent. You just don’t have the mental capacity to comprehend

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

It’s okay now you’re moving onto anger

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

This is pure cope. You can’t run from the screenshots

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Sshhhh it’s okay bub, it’s okay. It’s hard to admit you’re wrong

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Don’t need to put words in my mouth, not being a very sore loser Brochacho

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

Well you’ll need some other justification for your copemaxxing

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Great projection there buddy!

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

The screenshots prove me right

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

No no no you’re regressing back to denial. Very very bad.

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

The coping has gone too far I think it’s unhealthy for you

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Anonymous landtrust 1w

Yet even more projection, Jesus Christ!

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Anonymous cia.gov 1w

You can’t run for the screenshots unfortunately

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