Anonymous #1 2w

like genuinely how do you manage to find a post you agree with and somehow frame it through the lens of your own enlightenment

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Anonymous #1 2w

It’s to create in-groups and out-groups. “Clanker” is the signal word that targets something beneath moral consideration. When the target is AI, they feel no social cost doing it, so the language becomes a safe playground for impulses that would be condemned elsewhere. It’s the performance of contempt and the permission to treat something as lesser.

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Anonymous #1 2w

sorry i crashed out i’ve been working on a bullshit assignment all day and i’m like 20% done you’re chill and have good takes

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Anonymous #1 2w

🤷‍♂️ I probably should have commented because your thread is active. I usually quote post more than comment because most of the times the conversations I like are either dead posts or it’s a hug box.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

but like generally i agree that it’s basically a linguistic nicotine patch for racists

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Anonymous #2 2w

Don’t get me started on that shit 🤦‍♂️ Been dealing with populists for 2 days on here with just the worst attitudes and the entitled feelings of being owed explanations when they give none in return.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Sort of. Race is usually a catch-all for that kind of behavior, but it’s more of a larger human psychology issue. Sports teams do it to each other, music fans do it to other fans of different artists, etc. Also, the thrill of edginess of getting to use taboo-adjacent language. Harshness, exclusiveness, and shock value without the social consequences. Personally I’ve always thought it was really dorky 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous #1 2w

and othering/out-groups is absolutely the correct lens to frame this through. there’s also probably an interesting line where you argue it’s indicative of deeply ingrained colonial patterns propagating outside of the contexts where they were initially formed.

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Anonymous #1 2w

It goes back further than colonialism. You can go all the way back to the Ancient Greeks and Romans for it. That’s why terms like “savages” or “barbarians” were used.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

i just don’t can’t square how it fulfills the desire to be edgy/transgressive outside of the marginal simulation of applying slurs, like there’s no authority you’re revolting against by hating robots. that’s not to say it doesn’t, because clearly there’s a reason it’s commonplace

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

OH ALSO NOT TO MENTION people have also come up with other ones that aren’t a Star Wars reference??? Like wire back? Are we serious? Yall just wanna say slurs 😭😭

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Anonymous #1 2w

It’s edgy for essentially what you stated in your post and a little bit here. Imagine how hardcore edgy right-wingers feel dropping the n-word. It’s an attempt to recreate that feeling. It’s an independence from normality.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

othering has long existed but id argue that the modern notion of a slur is inherently derivative of colonial frameworks. like exclusion manifesting through language isn’t a new concept but the explicit reference to the n word as ‘prior art’ in the hard r vs soft a concept feels like it firmly places this in a newer canon

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

again you’re framing this as if you’re telling me something I don’t know. I was talking about how I have a hard time conceptualizing feeling a rush from saying slurs.

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Anonymous #1 2w

I largely agree. Othering language is ancient, but the modern social understanding of a “slur” absolutely carries the imprint of colonial and racial hierarchy. New targets often inherit older linguistic templates rather than inventing new ones.

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Anonymous #1 2w

It can come across as treating you like you’re dumb, but on here, especially with heavy topics like this, I never assume what people know and don’t know. I’m usually laying out my thought pattern, not necessarily trying to “well acktually”.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

i mean as shrimp said, there’s people saying “wire back”. racists are rarely noted for their originality.

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Anonymous #6 2w

why

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Anonymous #2 2w

You can’t be seriously asking that

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Anonymous #6 2w

pretty much every reason people cite is extremely exaggerated or a nonissue. basically instagram infographic tier misinformation

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Anonymous #6 2w

no you’d be surprised how many people have no concept of the realities of AI as it exists today. most people’s knowledge of ai essentially amounts to ‘i can ask chatgpt a question and it give me a answer and then i don’t have to click links like on google’

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Anonymous #6 2w

I hate printers. I don’t need to make up quirky slurs to justify that hate though.

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Anonymous #1 2w

no im mostly trying to see if people have any actually good reasons that arent exaggerated environmental things

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Anonymous #2 2w

i mean look no further than the current stock market brother. trillions in market cap have been created purely on circular accounting and speculation that one day compute might be cheap enough that AI can barely break even. Creation of misinformation and propaganda has become infinitely easier than it was three years ago, and AI is already being used for that exact purpose. I bought a laptop for $1200 and since I bought it the memory kit in it has gone up to ~$900.

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Anonymous #2 2w

Well for one they keep trying to build data centers in my state and very close to my city (in which water is already scarce) and try to buy public lands for it. I wouldn’t call that an “exaggerated” environmental concern when it has the potential to quite literally affect my daily life. But I hate it for more reasons than just that.

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Anonymous #2 2w

the pace at which AI is currently being developed/scaled is extremely irresponsible and will affect the global financial market for years to come.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

Call me crazy but I don’t think those two are comparable in this day and age

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Anonymous #2 2w

also, the construction of AI datacenters is literally making people’s lives worse in real time through increased electrical costs and excessive noise.

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Anonymous #6 2w

They quite literally are in regard to what they are. It’s a machine…a tool…I can sit and explain why guns are bad or how bad for the environment plastic is, I don’t need to create slurs to communicate that.

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 2w

In this context? Yeah, most likely. In the American sense of slurs, they’re used in a very specific linguistic way, which is usually referential and highly sensitive to race. British slurs for instance is usually more tonal with understatement and ridicule. I wasn’t even really trying to come at it from a woke scold way, I was just trying to explain why people use dehumanizing language 🤷‍♂️ It’s a pretty normal human thing

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