Anonymous #1 2w

how is a communist equally as dangerous as a fascist?

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Anonymous #2 2w

I am actually curious cause i feel like most of the times communism was bad was because there was also fascism ( i could be wrong so someone correct me if i am but)

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Anonymous #3 2w

The Soviets killed ten million of their own people well after they’d apparently single handedly defeated the fascists and saved Europe and America from defeat, if you listen to these tanky losers spin a narrative. Mao was butchering academics without a swastika anywhere in sight, after starving tens of millions of his own people trying to genocide capitalist birds (not a joke).

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Anonymous #4 2w

The centralized power required to implement the policies socialists want, even if you take them at their word about their intentions which would be foolish, is so great that it will be abused 100% of the time. In authoritarian structures the least competent people will typically wind up in power by completely faking the success and competency beneath them and being lucky enough to not get caught, e.g. modern Russian military, Iraqi military pre-Gulf War, Soviet era directorates.

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Anonymous #4 2w

Siding with fascists over leftists is definitely stupid but only because if you love freedom and have principles you should just let them fight each other and then take out whoever wins.

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Anonymous #4 2w

More people died from preventable causes under global capitalism in the past decade than have died due to mistakes/atrocities committed by socialists ever

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Anonymous xi.jinping 2w

Yeah and some something like 20,000 people died of old age in Gaza since 2023, don’t statistically dick measure with me when you’re talking about what is basically universally agreed to be the worst man-made avoidable famine in the history of the planet in China and straight up deliberate genocide in Russia just because that word makes you uncomfortable when it’s pointed at you. 🖕

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Anonymous #4 2w

I’m just saying one system is inherently more violent than the other.

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Anonymous xi.jinping 2w

No, you just feel justified laying every bad thing that has ever happened (that wasn’t your side’s fault) at the feet of the status quo. We both know if you took over it’d take you a couple years at most to catch up genociding everybody who hates you, which is about 80% of the Western world.

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Anonymous #4 2w

Almost like the status quo is violent + nice ad hominem bro

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yeah I can agree with you that the the centralization of power necessary for a communist state often leads to authoritarian overreach and negative consequences for the people of a country

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Violence is when people die of preventable causes. I’m not talking about old age. I’m talking about lack of access to food, healthcare, etc. Which capitalism is notorious for. I’m glad you love it when people are denied medical care they need to survive.

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Anonymous xi.jinping 2w

Famine and genocide aren’t preventable causes I guess? You can deflect all you want to protect your worldview but the fact is that anytime your ideology is able to exert any authority over anything there is a spike in human suffering that would make your imaginary bloated capitalist blush, meanwhile there are fewer people in abject poverty today than ever before and that is mostly down to China beginning to adopt some market policies.

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Anonymous #4 2w

Market policies don’t necessarily mean capitalism. Socialism is when workers own the means of production. This doesn’t mean markets cannot exist. You think you’re so clever but you don’t even know the definitions of words 😹

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Anonymous #4 2w

Want to talk about access to food go look up videos of Soviet grocery stores at the height of Soviet power. The only reason you’re able to sit there and compare death counts with a straight face is because you’ll place any death you can jump through your ass to rationalize at an ideological opponents doorstep to make a point, whereas I’m only talking about famine and genocide, and because there have only been 3-4 countries stupid enough to hand you the reins and let you kill 10% of them.

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Anonymous #4 2w

You act like empty grocery store shelves, famines, and genocides never happen under your precious liberal capitalism. Notice how I’m not running defense for when it does, meanwhile you clearly are

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Anonymous xi.jinping 2w

Because socialists cause them directly, often deliberately, whereas sometimes they just happen. You’re like a Nazi opening a gas valve and going “Look, sometimes people suffocate in liberal democracies too, I’m not making excuses.”

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Anonymous #4 2w

Okay so the centralization of power under communism is what is bad? I understand why communism has been bad, I know about what Mao did and i know its bad but how is what Mao did not fascism? Is centralized power characteristic of communism?

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Anonymous #3 2w

authoritarianism isn’t necessarily fascism

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Anonymous #3 2w

Characteristic in practice if not in principle. The collective power required to abolish private property is at least temporarily necessary for any socialist project to begin let alone be maintained, and can only really be wielded effectively by the state. Maintenance of the system also requires some external power because, left to their own devices, some people will inevitably wind up with more than others and able to invest capital.

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Anonymous #3 2w

If the state pretends to be somewhat democratic then there’s also an issue that typically people fucking hate the outcomes of socialist projects and want out immediately, so the state needs authoritarian power to stop them from leaving, to quell unrest and re-educate their misguided populace and prevent them from starting more successful, capital projects.

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Anonymous #4 2w

Fun fact, the Nazis were socialist😄 The party was officially titled the “National Socialist German Worker’s Party”. Hitler wanted to spread socialism.

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Anonymous xi.jinping 2w

I meant to reply to your comment. This is factual wrong. Hitler was a socialist.

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Anonymous #6 2w

I don’t endorse this restarted take or associate with people who repeat it

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Anonymous #3 2w

But massive centralized power is only one of the things about it that’s bad, it’s just the easiest to make the argument for. The actual ideology is evil independent of implementation.

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Anonymous #6 2w

And urinal cakes are cakes, go eat one, right now. It’s a cake, after all

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Anonymous #6 2w

You’re an idiot.

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Anonymous #6 2w

you’re just dumb wow

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Anonymous #4 2w

What you’re saying makes sense. I know people turn to the idea of communism because it seems like a solution to problems like massive wealth inequality that people see as being the result of the capitalist system. The global capitalist market has resulted in the displacement &disenfranchisement of millions in 3rd world countries. There are problems that seem inevitable under late stage capitalism & the whole system has been founded on exploitation of labor. What do you think the solution is?

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Anonymous xi.jinping 2w

How am I an idiot when this is factually correct? Please go learn history. Hitler was a socialist. Mussolini was a fascist. Socialist and fascist have always historically gotten along. Both are equally bad, but that information is still correct.

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Anonymous #6 2w

L bait

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Anonymous #6 2w

When i look up “was hitler socialist” everything says no

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Anonymous #3 2w

There’s no perfect solution, but the best one we have is a bunch of trustbusting liberal democracies with market capital economies, incredibly powerful safeguards against corruption, cronyism, and oligarchic influence with strong social safety nets and labor protections, a strong public education system, a universal commitment to fair trade, and international levers of power to punish bad actors, free riders, and rent seeking.

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