Anonymous OP 7w

Israel is fighting terrorists. Parroting terrorist propaganda and buying their bs IS supporting terrorists.

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Anonymous #1 7w

do u think Israel should not be subject to international humanitarian law? Or do you think we should get rid of international humanitarian laws (established after the holocaust to prevent another holocaust btw)?

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Anonymous #1 7w

That just feels like a disingenuous question to be honest with you because there are verifiable claims against Israel made by the UN and ICC. Like respectfully, we all know about that

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Anonymous OP 7w

Like the famine claim that was recently debunked?

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Anonymous #1 7w

share a source

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Anonymous #1 7w

and it’s about way more than just the famine

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Anonymous #1 7w

Israeli troops have targeted journalists (more journalists have been killed than in any other modern day conflict), UN healthcare workers, and civilians (documented cases of civilians being shot in the head and targeted at aid sites). Gazans were told to go to Rafah to avoid being bombed. Look at Rafah on google maps, it is bombed more than anywhere else. They did not let people leave & have denied most requests for medical evacuations, even children and elderly and cancer patients

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Anonymous OP 7w

https://govextra.gov.il/media/xr3dcfig/humanitarian-situation-report-during-the-ceasefire-cogat-july-2026.pdf

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Anonymous #1 7w

This is what comes up when i put that link in

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Anonymous OP 7w

More journalists have affiliation with the militia that initiated the war in Gaza than any time previous. Hamas doesn’t follow protocol 1 of the Geneva convention. Their tactics both in warfare and in propaganda creation put even legitimate journalists at risk. They often use ngo’s, ambulances and other civilian and aid infrastructure putting even legitimate aid workers and innocent civilians at risk.

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Anonymous OP 7w

As for Rafa, things change. When they were fighting in the north, Gazans were told to go south. Mind you, it’s documented that Hamas told people to stay put and not to flee. There were also videos of Hamas gunning people down in the street while civilians fled via the humanitarian corridor. Now, Hamas was holding hostages in Rafa, Hamas kept fighting from Rafa and so things change and Rafa needed to be dealt with, that’s why they created the Al-mowasi zone or however it’s spelled.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Mohammed sinwar was also found under a hospital in Rafah so…

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Anonymous OP 7w

https://govextra.gov.il/mda/ipc/gaza/

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Anonymous OP 7w

For all the bullshit lies about how “the Jews/israel control the media”, NO ONE in main stream media is willing to report the truth when it comes out. Shit gets buried, so you’re left with the only people willing and able to combat lies are the victims of those lies.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Slog through this: https://www.un.org/unispal/document/ipc-famine-third-review-report-25jun24/

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Anonymous #1 7w

do you really think it’s justifiable to target civilian infrastructure to the extent that it has been in Gaza? And you didn’t say anything about the actual UN healthcare workers that have been targeted or the denial of medical evacuations or the fact that they haven’t let anyone leave. Have you heard testimonies of doctors who have gone to help in Gaza? And your justification for the targeting of journalists is bs

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Anonymous OP 7w

Yes. Seeing as any infrastructure that is “civilian” has lost its protection by Hamas using it to fight from.

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Anonymous #1 7w

Crazy, you can’t just do that

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Anonymous #1 7w

Nice try but I’m not falling for the paid propaganda. But thanks for trying anyway, I’m sure they wrote you a big check.

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Anonymous #1 7w

Right, which is why they are mass killing children, journalists, doctors, medics, and humanitarian aid workers

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Anonymous #1 7w

I have seen literal videos of children, lone medics, and press with clearly labeled vests being sniped point blank in the head. Just fuck right off.

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Anonymous #1 7w

Your justification for Israel’s carpet bombing of civilian infrastructure is that terrorists may be hiding in those buildings. Despite the fact that over 80% of the Palestinians murdered since October 7 have been civilians. Israel’s own defense minister has explicitly said his government aims to ethnically cleanse Palestine. It is genuinely disgusting that propagandists like you exist, either because you’re delusional enough to believe what you’re saying or evil enough to lie about it.

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Anonymous #4 7w

Loooool ok you’re full of shit because what you said contradicts itself. So no you havnt you know nothing of warfare. Nothing of how firefights work, nothing of urban combat against an insurgency that makes a point to do everything they can to blend in with civilians, use ambulances medic uniforms, press uniforms, hospitals, schools etc to gain a tactical advantage on the uniformed professional military.

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Anonymous #1 7w

you ignored half my points & no actually the journalists israel has targeted have been non combatants, that is why it is so bad

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Anonymous #4 7w

I love how when simpletons use the term carpet bombing or indiscriminate bombing while they’re wrong because that’s not what’s happening, arguing that Israel is doing carpet, bombing or bombing and discriminately goes against the side allegation because you don’t even remotely see a corresponding loss of life to destruction, which you would see if Israel had the intent to destroy the population.

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Anonymous #1 7w

You are avoiding things. Respond to the part about Ben Gvir’s statements. And what do you think about the land that is being taken in the West Bank? It’s obvious this whole thing was just a ploy to steal more land

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Anonymous OP 7w

I don’t support or like ben gvir, so I won’t comment on the bullshit he says. There no proof that it translates to a systemic doctrine change in military action in Gaza.

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Anonymous #1 7w

And if ben gvir ends up facing the music for the shit he says, I’ll be in the balcony applauding his downfall. But it in no way negates the validity of the war against Hamas and Hezbollah

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Anonymous OP 7w

To reference settlements in the West Bank, the Israeli government tears down illegal settlements. While settlement expansion in my opinion does more harm than good (it’s an optics issue), I learned the history. Over 150,000 Jews were violently ethnically cleansed from “the West Bank” by Jordan, transplanting Arabs into villages and cities that were majority Jewish, or had Jews continuously living there for thousands of years. So wanting to essentially “move back” is understandable.

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Anonymous #1 7w

Okay well at least we can agree on Ben Gvir being an insane person. But i don’t get how you can acknowledge that but not the war crimes that are happening. Like Israeli troops got found liable for systemic sexual abuse in the Gaza strip- do you not think that is a war crime? After those soldiers r**** the detainee, why did Netanyahu defend them saying they shouldn’t be charged and that “heroes should be protected”? That is exactly the problem. Rules are not being followed or enforced.

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Anonymous OP 7w

War crimes are a problem, especially when they’r proven independently to be true, are awful and need to be addressed. For the sake of argument I’ll grant you the overall premise that there have been war crimes. (War crimes =\= genocide, but that’s a whole other thing) But the problem here lies, as we discuss it on the other side of the world, is that the existence of war crimes, or even the allegation is being used to delegitimize Israel as a state, all the while the other side gets a pass

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Anonymous #1 7w

Well, Israel has been accused by genocide for its indiscriminate attacks on designated safe zones, refugee camps, and neighborhoods, the man-made famine (genuinely how can you know people right near you are starving & do nothing to get them food), and the targeting of healthcare infrastructure & healthcare workers. What is your explanation for the arrest of healthcare workers & proven *targeting* of non-combatant journalists?

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Anonymous #1 7w

I get your concerns about Israel being delegitimized as a state but my perspective is that that is the Netanyahu administration’s doing. And the antisemitism problem was manufactured by his administration. Just totally watering down the word antisemitism & delegitimizing it

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Anonymous OP 7w

They attack where militants are. Even the own reports that were used in saying that Israel struck civilian areas had pij militants and other groups announce that their fighters were killed in those strikes. Something the UN never acknowledges

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Anonymous #1 7w

Why are they targeting and arresting non-combatant doctors and journalists then? Why do they deny medical evacuations and why entirely close the border so that no one can leave a tiny area that is being constantly bombed? It is objectively unfair. All you have to do is imagine yourself being born in Gaza to see that it is unfair. No one is being given a chance

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Anonymous OP 7w

I don’t believe they are. Though I do know that a doctor and a journalist (neither of whom were officially affiliated with Hamas) held a hostage in rafah for like over a year. But yes war sucks. That’s why it’s stupid to start a war… but stop laying the blame at the feet of the force waging war against the aggressor of the war. Like wtf. It could be over in a heart beat if Hamas and other militant groups would unconditionally surrender and disarm. Yet they don’t…they benefit from drawing it out

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Anonymous #1 7w

You keep ignoring the points I make that disprove your argument. The denial of med-evacs and total closure of the border is one of the nails in the coffin that you keep ignoring. Non-combatants didn’t start this. What Israel is doing is at the very least extreme collective punishment, and at worst, intentional ethnic cleansing (supported by statements made by top government officials & a refusal to prosecute war crimes committed by Israeli troops).

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Anonymous #1 7w

Yeah sorry for the contradiction of actually saying “sniped” and “point blank,” my bad I was more angry and concerned about people being murdered. Yes I’ve seen them get sniped and get killed in targeted blasts. It is disturbing and disgusting. I have to ask how you explain away cases like Hind Rajab since you insist on being a genocide apologist

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Anonymous #1 7w

So you’re somehow more qualified than dozens of international human rights organizations at determining what is or isn’t genocide? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humanitarian_and_human_rights_groups_accusing_Israel_of_genocide_in_Gaza

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Anonymous #1 7w

What the fuck do you think a defense minister does? Also while Ben Gvir is a psychopath, I’m referring to Israel Katz who (like Ben Gvir) has threatened complete ethnic cleansing of Palestine

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Anonymous #1 7w

“I don’t believe they are” oh so we should just take your word instead of the countless news reports and footage. What a dumb fucking statement

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Anonymous #4 7w

Yes. Most are ideologically driven, or otherwise benefit from there being a genocide. It justifies their existence. Many have been infiltrated by completely biased actors. I don’t trust them one bit when it comes to their analysis. It’s not objective whatsoever

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Anonymous #1 7w

it literally just is genocide when a country traps a group of people in a small area & constantly *indiscriminately* bombs that area including designated safe zones, targets medical and sanitation facilities, healthcare workers and journalists and civilians, indiscriminately arrests people and tortures them in prisons, doesn’t let anyone leave, and then tries to justify it by loosely associating all civilians with a terrorist group

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Anonymous #1 7w

it is so obvious & we all know that it’s blatantly unjust because we know it would not be fair if it happened to us. If you were a Palestinian in Gaza, they wouldn’t care if you had done everything right your whole life. They wouldn’t care how good of a person you are. To them, you would just be another Hamas supporter. That is not fair and you know it

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Anonymous OP 7w

Who elected Hamas? Who supported Hamas? Who cheered in the streets every time Hamas rockets flew overhead towards civilian neighborhoods? Who indoctrinated their children into killing Jews, and becoming martyrs? Who poured into the streets and spat and beat on hostages as they were paraded through the streets? Who poured into Israel behind Al qassam on Oct 7 to violently attack Israelis, take their own hostages and commit other atrocities? People of Gaza. Sure, not all… just most.

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Anonymous #1 7w

literally proving my point. sad.

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Anonymous #1 7w

You’re on another level of denialism. I hope you remember your bullshitting and ignorance when the entire world acknowledges the genocide.

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Anonymous #1 7w

lol

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Anonymous #4 7w

Preventing a genocide by killing the genocidal, people is not a genocide. The radical Islamists Hamas, Hezbollah and everyone that they support and enables them are the genocidal ones… the Arabs, going back to even before Israel was established were the genocidal ones. The grand mufti Palestine was a celebrated Nazi. You have bought hook line and sinker the propaganda of these awful genocidal fucking terrorists. It’s pathetic

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Anonymous #1 7w

I really don’t want to entertain this because you have ben thoroughly proven wrong, but I am just saying this for your own sake: You can’t judge people as a group, you have to judge people individually according to their individual characters. That is the point of laws against collective punishment and the principle of justice. That is why international laws were established to prevent genocide.

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Anonymous OP 7w

been *

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Anonymous OP 7w

I know there are people who just want to live in peace. They are too few and far between. I’ve studied the region, this conflict and others extensively. I’ve been to war myself and know more than most. I’ve been to the region, I have seen and spoke with real people from both sides. No one has objectively proven what I say wrong. Just appeals to emotion, appeals to flawed authority fallacies. Strawmanning etc. it’s pathetic

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Anonymous #1 7w

I don’t think you are objectively considering what I am saying & it seems to me that you have a blind spot in your perspective. DM me if you want to talk more

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