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Yet it wasn’t.

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No lol. Fuck leftists. I’m not looking to be admired lol, I just know a wolf in sheep’s clothing when I see one. Why would I ever give any sort of charity to a group of people who only complain that Democrats aka THE LIBERAL PARTY aren’t doing enough when they themselves seek the destruction of liberalism?

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Joker’s also always blowing wind out of his ass about how “leftists don’t do anything” while he sits on here 24 hours a day doing nothing but shitting on leftists lmfao

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Anonymous #1 35w

Leftists legit try to sabotage liberal coalitions 🤣 Get bent

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Anonymous catgirlcommunist 35w

Thank you for your analysis fellow communist

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More aesthetics than anything substantive. You guys keep affirming my opinion lol

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Revolution, counter-institutions, or electoralism. Call it.

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Address my character judgement and pathologizing! Do it!

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Was raised on a farm and I help out from time to time, but not my occupation. Worked for a defense contractor for a few months but left over moral reasons. I daytrade the ES Mini now.

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You’re not organizing in opposition btw. Stop inflating what you’re doing.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 35w

Oh man you worked for a defense contractor? Yeah, that tells me all I need to know about you buddy.

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Anonymous #1 35w

Yup. only for a few months.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 35w

So not only are you a fascist sympathizer, you’ve got blood on your hands too? But it’s okay I guess, it’s only a few drops.

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Anonymous #1 35w

Do you know what the definition of “sympathizer” is? CAN ANY OF YOU PEOPLE USE WORDS CORRECTLY?!?

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Anonymous ___joker__ 35w

Idk man this constant deflection from the fascist threat to your infantile hatred for everyone to your left is kinda giving sympathizer, or at the very least, useful idiot.

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You really don’t know what a sympathizer or a useful idiot is, do you? You’ve just heard these terms in passing.

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It is hard, thank you.

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Easy. I don’t need to see you both jerk each other off. Take that shit to the DMs

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😘

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Anonymous ___joker__ 35w

Fascists pride themselves on their anti-leftism, why would they oppose your virulent anti-leftism? Just because of your occasional very meek criticisms of them?

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Anonymous #1 35w

“Meek criticisms”. You see a lot of fascists on here coming to critique liberal democracy? You point them out to me and I’ll go chat with them.

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Well I didn’t do that, and I didn’t make Kamala Harris a shitty candidate ordained without a primary to test her mettle whatsoever. I swallowed my critiques on election day and voted for that shitty untested candidate in my swing state, like almost every leftist I know around here did. You want progressives to like you more? Throw ‘em a bone. Don’t go “we don’t need your vote anyways, we need moderate Republicans” and then blame the left when they say “heard, don’t need my vote anyways, R-Lite”

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Anonymous #1 35w

Unfortunately, it seems like a non-negligible number of leftists did not vote for Dems in swing states, and plenty advocated for staying at home too. We can acknowledge that plenty of leftists understood what was at stake (thank you for doing that) while criticizing the ones who (for various reasons) did not

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Sorry, but what does “advocating for organization” mean?

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Anonymous #7 35w

Yeah, sure, and we can also acknowledge that the Democratic Party has done absolutely nothing to curry favor with its progressive wing other than simply not be Donald Trump. How many times can we run the “Run Centrist To Peel Off Moderate Rs” play and lose with critical parts of the Democratic base before we consider a different strategy than playing into the Republicans’ hands? You can’t watch Kamala’s acceptance speech from the 2024 DNC and tell me that shit was what the actual base wanted.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 35w

Fascists don’t need to go on forums and critique liberal democracy, they simply infiltrate and destroy it from the top down. So if you’re dedicating more time to shitting on leftists than to shit on them, you’re fucking up. You’re doing what they want you to do. Or do you think the Nazis were upset when the libs murdered Rosa?

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Like, Kamala’s strategy was to out-reactionary Donald Trump. Her attacks were often things like “I’m gonna be even TOUGHER on immigration than Trump! I’m gonna make our military THE MOST LETHAL FIGHTING FORCE ON EARTH! Dick Cheney loves me!” like bruh, this is Republican shit. And you wonder why Democratic and left-leaning independent voters, who should be very easy to get against Donald Trump, were clearly unenthused?

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I don’t think she ever said she’d be tougher than Trump or bragged about Dick Cheney’s endorsement. The point of the Cheney endorsement (and she barely (if at all) talked about Dick’s endorsement, she only campaigned with Liz) was that Trump has gotten *so bad* that a two-time Trump voter can’t bring himself to vote for him again. Mainly because he literally caused his daughter to get death threats

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Well I think that part was done out of false confidence that America simply wouldn’t re-elect the guy who royally fucked up the entire year 2020 and had already lost once before.

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Didn’t we already make that mistake in 2016

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They capitulated to white supremacists…by nominating someone who’s black and Indian?

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I’m aware of what tokenization means. Are you saying Harris is a token?

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So then how did they capitulate to transphobes and white supremacists?

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“It was a difference of how long it takes for us to get here in my opinion” That sounds like a euphemism for “less people would have died”. That’s a material difference.

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Expanding funding for DHS does not directly equate to white supremacy. FEMA, the coast guard, TSA, and CISA are also under DHS. Resolving the immigration case backlog is literally the opposite of white supremacy. Improving the ability to screen for drugs at the border is not white supremacy.

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Less people dying isn’t a “short-term gain”. That’s a lower short-term loss. Looking at less death as a “gain” is crazy work. I already addressed non-voters above btw, and 3rd party voters did have an impact in some congressional races

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Please walk me through how ensuring immigrants who have cases in immigration court aren’t in limbo for a decade is white supremacy, because I don’t understand that at all. Their ability to remain in the US is at significant risk before their case is heard. They could be deported as soon as some SCOTUS ruling happens.

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Because they proposed a bill that would do exactly that. Before Trump came into power, the bills Congress passed and didn’t pass actually meant something.

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The Biden border bill was literally supposed to fix some of these issues. It was the first legislative fix in decades. I absolutely agree with you that both parties and their masters benefit from the status quo, but what is needed is a legislative fix, and that’s what was proposed, before Trump killed it

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Maybe you misunderstood. My point of bringing up “a SCOTUS ruling” is that the limbo that you’re in before your case is heard means your status is at the mercy of many outside forces. I didn’t say electing someone else was going to fix SCOTUS itself. I said that clearing the immigration case backlog (i.e. hiring more judges so all the cases can be heard faster) would put many of them in a safer position that protects them from deportation due to some court ruling, a new administration, etc.

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If people are capable of voting blue in state elections, then they must not have realized it. Because third-party votes caused democrats to lose in swing states like PA. That paved the way for a Republican senate to pass the OBBBA, which is the source of most of the problems under this administration, since it allocates the money for it

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