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Am I crazy for not wanting to believe the worst about the Men’s Hockey team based off two videos that barely a minute put together. While I wouldn’t have reacted that way I don’t think they wanted to come off the way it looks.
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Anonymous 4w

Like Charlie McAvoy for example is very openly liberal, goes to pride parades, advocates for marginalized communities, etc. The Tkachuk brothers are fully MAGA and Matthew said visiting Trump was the greatest day of his life Everyone else is probably somewhere in between

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Anonymous 4w

sports ARE political. it would be a much stronger statement to stand up against an administration that is perpetuating discrimination and injustice. atheletes who make political statements (kaepernick, rapinoe, liu) still love America, but it’s obvious that they’re calling attention to some of the flaws of our country; patriotism and nationalism are two different things

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Anonymous 4w

its something thatd be really easy to clear up if they really didnt mean it badly. just think if you had accidentally said something that came out wrong and people were thinking you were a bigot wouldnt you correct the narrative? theyre clearly fine being viewed that way

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Anonymous 4w

sure but like we been knowing theyre a bunch of magats

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Anonymous 4w

The political views of the players likely range from not supportive of Trump at all to full MAGA but hockey is also a notoriously conservative sport, the league banned pride tape on players’ sticks after all so it’s not fully your fault

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Anonymous 4w

No that’s super valid.

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Anonymous 4w

Especially with the phone call. It could have been uncomfortable laughter, you can even hear one of them say “2 for 2” in response to Trump, that’s as supportive as you can get. (I’m totally aware that I can be wrong I just don’t think it’s smart to make assumptions with what we have)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Even if it’s all uncomfortable laughter, which at least some of it very much doesn’t sound like, they are maga with no spine to do anything but laugh and go along with sexism towards female athletes

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4w

Thank you. I feel so gaslit by these chronically online mfers.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Please show me proof that they are all MAGA other than two videos that can be easily be taken out of context.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

Again please show me proof that they are all MAGA other than two videos that can be easily taken out of context.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Inviting kash Patel to party in their locker room, even from that phone call alone you can tell they are very enthusiastic to go to the White House and be talking to him while anyone who hates him would not be talking that happily and decline, common sense

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Also like it’s hockey dude, it’s not that crazy to think they’re maga with all that

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

this is from last year - maybe not all maga but definitely maga adjacent

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

What are they supposed to do hang up on him… I don’t blame them for just trying to go with the flow when this admin attacks people for not supporting them. Imagine what he’d try to do if they didn’t talk to him.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

i think you are being willfully obtuse does the president call up other teams before they play a big game?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Im fully aware that’s the biggest possibility but I refuse to demonize them all without solid proof.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

They’re supposed to do what the women’s hockey team did if they’re simply mainly not maga, simple

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

He has a habit of calling teams that win so it’s not surprising at all to me

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Or at the very least not sound so enthusiastic, I’m not saying all but a number of them are maga, denying that is dumb

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

yeah, plus i think it’s important to note that it’s usually the American Olympic committee / hockey executives and coaches inviting people like Patel rather than the players themselves, they don’t make those decisions, they just play

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

From everything I’m hearing Kash Patel just showed up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Even if he was invited I doubt the players control that.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

He stated that he was personally invited

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Like I said I doubt the players control that.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w
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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

my guess is the actual pro-MAGA players like the Tkachuks invited him to celebrate in the locker room

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

It’s important to note that the NHL resumes Wednesday so it’s not like they can go.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Do we really believe Kash Patel all of the sudden, mister “There is no Epstein Files”

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

I agree which is still players inciting him, I’m not saying they’re all huge maga people but some fs are

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Inviting*

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Definitely. But I refuse to group them all together.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

And I think that the ones who aren’t could at least grow a bit of a spine, that’s all I’m saying

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I get that but it’s not exactly easy situation to be put in. You could just go with it, don’t make waves. And people online come at you. Or make a statement and have Trump come at you.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

And with how genuine some of those laughs sound, I could easily see some of the maga ones finding any sexist joke that come out of trumps mouth funny bc you can’t worship Trump and hate sexism. And the other ones are just bring stupid.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Being

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

also would be a great way to hurt your standing with the American national team, as bad as I bet some of them wanted to do it, they didn’t wanna disrespect their teammates or cause tension

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

And that is people’s problem. Be more like the figure skaters and women’s team.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Especially if it was a manager or similarly powerful person that accepted the call or invited Kash.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

I’m not saying you need to decline the call, you reject the invitation and say you have prior commitments or a family event and you won’t personally be able to make it even

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I doubt all of them are going, league is literally restarting

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Ok perfect other excuse then

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Ok and what if it was a manager or similarly positioned person that had control over the situation. Not only could they risk future placement in the Olympic team but their NHL career to. That’s not something everyone can afford to do especially if someone can torch their career to help appease Trump.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I bet a lot of them will go too still tho, but they’re mainly being used as props, visiting DC after winning gold is pretty common and an achievement many of these guys have dreamed of, it’s a shame that the pedo has to politicize it rather than invite everyone and simply celebrate American athletes being great

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Can we not agree that this doesnt apply to a lot of them and a lot of them want to go, wanted kash there and it’s not like they were ignoring him in the locker room, and if they worship trump it’s not unlikely a lot of them find sexist jokes funny

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Exactly having a President call you should be an honor, one they’ve worked their entire lives to experience and to make this some black and white issue about politics is naive.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Are you maga

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Yes. I’ve already said I agreed. Some are bootlickers.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Fuck no. I’m not stupid.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Ofc I understand why people politicize it our own president is politicizing it after all, but imo I think it should just be a celebration of our athletes performing well and doing something they haven’t done in almost 50 years, I’m a leftist and I was still piss drunk cheering for the MAGA dudes when they scored, that’s like okay it doesn’t make you a bad person or a hypocrite at all lol

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Why do you think a disgusting corrupt pedophile call you is an honor, idgaf if he’s the president

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

bc celebrating an Olympic medal win with the president is usually an honor, it shouldn’t be politicized and it’s a shame that it is

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

If it shouldn’t be politicized then Trump should just stay away from

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I meant aside from Trump I was literally agreeing with #4 that this is something that Trump is ruining for these players. If you got a call from a president (accept Trump) that’s an honor.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I mean it’s a common tradition for the American president to celebrate American athletes, Obama did it, Biden did it, it’s just Trump is only inviting those who he thinks supports him which undermines the entire point of celebrating all of the athletes

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

That’s what I was just saying.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

yeah, I think this person is saying that the athletes shouldn’t be invited to the White House at all in general maybe? Idk

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

That’s stupid though. And I hate that Trump is ruining what should be a great honor for anyone.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

No that’s not what I’m saying, I was saying that at first in response to them saying it shouldn’t be politicized. I just don’t understand why people are acting like they are completely innocent and could not do anything if they really wanted to an absolutely have to be completely complicit or at first acting like they weren’t maga

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I’m not I don’t understand the people making assumptions about the whole team.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

And since when is laughing at sexist comments and leaving it at that something we are all defending with our lives no matter who it’s from

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Maybe they just took it at face value and not a sexist comment. Not defending that or saying it’s a smart or right thing to do.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

is there more they could have done? ofc that’s usually true ab literally anybody, but also they’re hockey players who take blows to head repeatedly and are notoriously conservative compared to athletes of other sports I think it’s more of a what did you expect type of situation, the predominantly rich white sport has people who actively support trump and others that prioritize respect over criticism, sounds about rich and white and not surprising whatsoever

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

no it was sexist, but also if the president made an insensitive joke in front of me, I wouldn’t call him out on it I don’t have the balls for that lol, I’d just laugh awkwardly probably like I would at my grandpa during Thanksgiving dinner

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Exactly, that’s what I respect from rich white maga hockey player men

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Expect* I need to turn autocorrect off

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Did I did I not say “Not defending” them thinking it wasn’t sexist. It was sexist.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

yeah I bet there’s numerous people in there that voted for Harris too tho that didn’t speak up ab it, it is kind of a very difficult thing to do, criticize the president for an insensitive joke while celebrating your win is it the right thing to do? Yeah. It’s also socially awkward and could even lead to you being targeted on social media so All of these guys have press training and are taught to avoid controversy so it’s a bit of that as well

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

*did I or did I not

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Oh wait you mean NOT thinking bad of them… I mean it’s really obvious where they lie politically and what they were happy laughing along to.

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4w

Like I said it’s obvious some are MAGA but lickers but I refuse to believe that about all of them based on situations they don’t have control over.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

It’s not really jumping to conclusions to think “hmm partying with politicians/leaders who are doing horrible things and then getting on a call with the worst of them and laughing as he degrades your counterparts and just women in general and being proud enough to post these things… might make them bad people in support of bad people”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

I mean they do have control over what they laugh at and how they interact with people. They can leave the room or just not laugh at gross jokes or even better yet, call it out.

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4w

I’m glad you would have the balls to call out the god damn president in person bc I sure wouldn’t lol, I hate the guy but I understand why mfs would just stand there awkwardly esp bc of how the press could make such an uproar out of it

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4w

Like Ive said I know how I would have reacted but it’s difficult to potentially risk your career over politics. There’s no denying that a lot of people in very high positions in sports are conservative, and willing to ruin careers over politics. It has happened before.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

I feel like most people who actually dislike him have a spine against Trump. People consistently boo him, refuse to shake his hand, press him about issues even if he’s incredibly disrespectful to them (just listen to all the journalists women that he has been horrible to and how they still stand firm).

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Calling out in this case can be something as simple as not laughing and saying things like “of course they should come!”

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Charlie McAvoy didn’t speak up but imo it’s pretty clear this guy is also not MAGA or conservative lol, literally goes to the pride parade every year in Boston putting people in boxes based on their responses to the president of the U.S. calling them to celebrate an American win is silly even tho a lot of them likely are MAGA

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Being spineless in the face of all that he has done is a cowardice that I don’t respect at all. And going so far as to be laughing and celebrating it all, clearly they don’t mind Trump and his people.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Most of them cheated in response yet here we are. Talking about the few that laughed like it’s the whole team.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

He literally targets public figures that call him out. While I don’t agree with not speaking out I see why one wouldn’t.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

McAvoy is an amazing human being.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I would do that and then make up some bs excuse of why I can’t make it either like the women’s team did saying they have prior educational and professional commitments then

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Cheered*

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