Anonymous landtrust 12w

Everyone in America right now cares about this post

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Many cis women don’t feel comfortable with situations like this tho & it’s not like it’s a one-off thing. That’s why people care about it “in this country”

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Anonymous #4 12w

guess what? get over it, it’s a stupid reason to dislike trans people

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Anonymous #1 12w

Women being uncomfortable is a stupid frivolous concern to u. Amazing

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Anonymous #4 12w

as uncomfortable as women are, trans people are likely way more uncomfortable on a case by case basis, they are the bigger victims in this case by far

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Anonymous #1 12w

Make half the population submit to the ideology of a tiny minority and dismiss any concerns as just being a bigot

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Anonymous #4 12w

yeah if you dislike trans people by definition that makes you a bigot transgenderism isn’t an “ideology”, it’s a naturally occurring variance in human identity and behavior denying its existence doesn’t make it any less real

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Anonymous #1 12w

I like trans people fine unless you’re doing sh!t like this to mock women. can’t get behind that

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Anonymous #4 12w

which nobody is doing. don’t legitimize this AI generated nonsense.

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Anonymous #4 12w

It is a one off thing and if you don’t feel comfortable, keep it to yourself. It actually doesn’t affect your life at all. Btw this isn’t an issue in other countries. It’s only America and western countries

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Ofc a dude says this. Yes it does affect my life, no it’s not a one off thing, and it’s not just one person being uncomfortable. It’s not my problem that weird stuff like this doesn’t happen in other countries, doesn’t mean i have to swallow my discomfort so that a small minority can make a mockery out of women

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

especially when it comes to private vulnerable spaces it does and has affected not only my life but many other women. zip it plz🤐

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Anonymous #4 12w

Who I am doesn’t make what I’m saying any less true. You have zero examples of it affecting you. Don’t like it? Block the person who posted it. You’re in control of your cortisol spikes 😂

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Anonymous #4 12w

This bs is made up. This is just turf propaganda. Women on average are pro trans in America.

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Anonymous #4 12w

trans women are women btw

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Anonymous #1 12w

True

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

You haven’t asked me for examples. Would you like some?

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Also. Interesting how we’re in control of our cortisol spikes but it’s also “get over it. keep it to yourself”. Me being in control of what happens in my life involves speaking up. Don’t like what im saying? Block me 😂

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Anonymous #4 12w

also the idea that trans women are mocking cis women by doing womanly things seems transphobic asf to me I can’t lie

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Anonymous #1 12w

yeah by pretending to get periods and claiming to understand experiences that in reality they biologically could never is delusional at best and making a mockery out of women at worst. And your lack of willingness to comprehend what im saying doesn’t make it “transphobic”

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Anonymous #4 12w

Oml stop fucking whining

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Anonymous #4 12w

“Ooh a cringey trans woman said she’s on her period, I’m gonna devote my whole life to stopping this” Like oh my god. The president rapes children. This shit does not matter.

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Anonymous #4 12w

they are women, yes they are biologically different, but gender is a social construct, not all cis women get periods, not all cis women can get pregnant, and neither of those things are required to identify as a woman your stance comes from a place of bigotry rather than of actual concern it seems, I am hearing you out, you just sound like a bigot

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

I’m most definitely not devoting my life to this brother, you’re so dramatic

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Anonymous #4 12w

I could block you, yes. But I’d rather explain how you’re incorrect. Op said it affects them, when I said it doesn’t, they didn’t provide any examples. If they existed, they wouldve been given. You shouldn’t speak up, you should learn to get over it

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Anonymous #4 12w

we’re dramatic yet you’re the one complaining about shit like this even tho it does not affect tou

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Anonymous #4 12w

And yet you’re here, whining about it. Do you make the same amount of fuss about our president literally killing children? Fucking doubt it. Get your priorities together you look fucking silly

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Anonymous #1 12w

It does affect me, why do you need my personal experiences to believe that? Just because it doesn’t affect you doesn’t mean it doesn’t affect anyone

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Anonymous #4 12w

how could a trans woman pretending to be pregnant possibly affect you directly? snowflake…

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Anonymous #4 12w

It a trans woman saying she’s on her period online absolutely does not affect you, you loser

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Anonymous #1 12w

I already said it’s the trans ideology that has directly affected me

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

Me when I think trans people only exist online

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Anonymous #4 12w

and I’ve already said that it’s not an “ideology” and how has it directly affected you lmfao

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Anonymous #4 12w

Are you insinuating trans people are coming to *you in real life* and announcing they’re on their period?

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Anonymous #4 12w

how does trans people existing in real life affect you directly snowflake?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

and even if that were true, how would that directly affect her beyond mild annoyance?

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

That’s such a horrible argument “if it affected you you would’ve given your personal experiences to a bunch of strangers who already made it clear they don’t care about your concerns”, believe what you want but im seeing a clear lack of understanding from ya that how people act and what they do does in fact impact others

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

No im saying that ive experienced what it’s like to have to give up comfort + sense of safety in vulnerable areas so that tran women could feel affirmed. Thats why im allowed to provide my perspective

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Anonymous #4 12w

Did you vote red in 2024?

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Anonymous #4 12w

being uncomfortable around trans people is transphobic trans people aren’t more likely to assault you in the bathroom either, you’re still far more likely to be assaulted by a cis man than a trans person and it isn’t even close

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yurp. It’s just being a fucking weirdo. And frankly, I don’t actually believe this person ever gave anything up legitimately. They probably just mean “had to share a room with a trans woman one time”

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Anonymous #1 12w

Being uncomfortable with trans women insisting on being in vulnerable areas knowing that it makes many women uncomfortable, is not transphobic

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Anonymous #4 12w

Yes it is. It’s a functionally made up problem.

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Anonymous #4 12w

This is like when people said they were uncomfortable with black women in “women’s spaces”

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Anonymous #4 12w

it is dude, imagine saying something like, “we don’t want lesbians in women’s spaces because it makes us uncomfortable,” that’s not valid, that’s just homophobic

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Anonymous #1 12w

Exactly. Same shit.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Now do an example where it’s people of different sexes insisting on entering your private area

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Anonymous #4 12w

Yeah that example is trans people, and you’re taking the wrong side lmao.

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Anonymous #4 12w

Isn’t being scared of lesbians functionally the same concept anyway? Because they might leer at you like “men” would? I mean they used literally the same arguments against lesbians in womens spaces that you do for trans women, do you fall for that bs too?

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Anonymous #4 12w

I would absolutely zero issue with trans men entering male spaces because they are in fact men

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

No it’s not the same thing because of the whole biological differences and whatnot 🥀

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Anonymous #4 12w

Are you parodying your argument for me?

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Anonymous #4 12w

You know they used to say that about black women too.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yeah trans men aren’t the problem, notice ive been specific

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Anonymous #4 12w

Have you? You haven’t supported anything with data. You even given an anecdote. I’d say you’ve been annoyingly vague, only appealing to the ick basically.

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Anonymous #4 12w

notice how gender neutral bathrooms are not called sex neutral bathrooms, it’s bc they are split by gender not sex, and trans women are women so you’re complaining ab nothing

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yurp.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

I’ll provide my evidence and personal experiences if you want to learn how to understand what im saying and where im coming from. Feel free to dm ! Also sex neutral bathrooms are the same thing as gender neutral bathrooms so what even is that argument u guys

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Anonymous #4 12w

“Sex and gender are the same thing” No they’re not you dipshit.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

So that’s not how quotes work

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Anonymous #4 12w

Also I am absolutely not dming you so you can provide evidence. If you can’t defend yourself in an argument then you failed.

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Anonymous #4 12w

I don’t care about a bigot’s argument, if you feel uncomfortable around trans women because they are trans women, then you are transphobic, literally the definition of transphobia

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Anonymous #1 12w

Thank you for proving my point 🙏

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Anonymous #4 12w

Is it proven? Because I still see no evidence trans women are a danger to cis women at all. Did your point change,

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Anonymous #4 12w

*?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

You lit just said you don’t care to see my evidence or hear my argument which has been clear from the jump

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Anonymous #4 12w

bc bigotry isn’t an argument that should be taken seriously in any context, even if you had been sexually assaulted by a trans woman, it doesn’t mean trans women shouldn’t be allowed in places for women because they are in fact women, blame those that commit sex crimes if that’s what you’re so concerned about, not all trans women but you keep saying “DM me” instead of commenting in here too, like why not just say it here where everyone can see it?

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Anonymous #4 12w

No I said if you want to share evidence you should do it when you’re making the actual argument. If the only time you can present your evidence is privately it’s probably bs.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yeah seriously is their “evidence” so fucking bad that they can’t say it out loud?

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Anonymous #4 12w

I do care if you have a legitimate argument “Trans women make me uncomfortable” is not evidence nor a legitimate argument, it’s purely bigotry, plain and simple by definition, bigotry isn’t an argument to be taken seriously, it’s merely hatred for the sake of hate

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Anonymous #4 12w

So much yapping and so few examples. You dilly dallying only confirms my assumption that you have no points and you’re just making it up

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Bro making what up 🫩 lol

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Anonymous #4 12w

Why didn’t you respond by providing some stats or smth

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

Stats about literally what🫩 ive already explained how trans women make a mockery out of women, what stats would help you understand

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Anonymous #4 12w

Oh, so your only argument is that *you* feel mocked by the existence of trans people? You have no data saying they’re violent or there’s any reason to feel unsafe? So who cares? The world doesn’t stop because your fee fees are hurt you gotta prove there’s some kinda harm.

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Anonymous #4 12w

You’re making up how it affects you. It doesn’t

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Anonymous #4 12w

mocking is a subjective interpretation, not a fact, and trans women mocking cis women wouldn’t even be a justifiable reason to be bigoted against trans women

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Anonymous #1 12w

“Don’t you see that I have a subjective opinion about a group of people? KILL KILL KILL-“ Type shit

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

I never claimed trans women are violent (even tho they have been recently). You’ve done so much work to misunderstand and not address and dismiss the point

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Anonymous #4 12w

you feeling uncomfortable is not a valid reason to not include trans women in women’s spaces as I said earlier, here’s an example: “Lesbians shouldn’t be in women’s spaces because they make me feel uncomfortable” Is this is a valid reason? No, this is very clearly homophobic, same thing with trans women

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Anonymous #4 12w

Your discomfort doesn’t justify denying people to spaces that match their gender identity

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Anonymous #4 12w

Well if your argument is exclusively “they make me uncomfortable” then you’re a fuckin loser. Nobody cares. If you can prove they’re causing measurable harm then why should we care?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

Most conservatives need their free speech revoked

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Anonymous #4 12w

Would it be okay for someone to say that black people should be excluded from white spaces because their biological differences make you uncomfortable? No. Obviously not. So unless you can prove it’s bad somehow why are we even talking?

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Never been more based than the second you decided to type that fact out loud.

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Anonymous #1 12w

discomfort also doesn’t justify giving people access to anywhere that resonates with them tbh

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Anonymous #4 12w

Your logic literally could be used to justify segregation.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

Ugh good thing that’s not what we’re talking about

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Anonymous #4 12w

why should trans women be denied from women’s spaces when they are in fact women? why are they called trans *WOMEN* if they are not women? It sounds like you deny transgender people their gender identity which is in fact transphobic by definition you just keep saying bigoted things, get called out on it, and then get mad when you get called out on it, educate yourself and stop being such a sensitive snowflake

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

I don’t understand why we have such a strong culture of “freedom”. Freedom for what? To destroy society? I prefer if Americans had the freedom of social unity

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Anonymous #4 12w

But if someone was going to talk about that, they could quote you word for word to defend it. Yeah man. That says nothing about the validity of your beliefs your right.

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

“This is making a mockery out of women” “youre a liar you shouldn’t speak get over it this doesn’t affect you we shouldn’t have freedom of speech this is destroying society you’re a snowflake” so funny

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Anonymous #4 12w

not calling you a liar, but the idea that it’s making a mockery out of women is your OPINION, it is a subjective interpretation by definition, it is NOT a FACT at the end of segregation, white people were deeply uncomfortable sharing buses and schools with black people, they thought they were dangerous and were scared for their safety, does this make segregation justifiable? Of course not

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Anonymous #4 12w

Well when your arguments can be used to defend segregation…? Like… none of my arguments could be used to do that. Just sayin.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

“Guess what? Get over it” “you shouldn’t speak you should get over it” “destroying society” also arguments that can be used to defend segregation btw

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Anonymous #4 12w

And were talking points against women’s rights to silence and dismiss but you guys wouldn’t understand 🤫

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Anonymous #4 12w

Those aren’t arguments tho.

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Anonymous #4 12w

Arguments are like saying “your belief that trans women make a mockery of cis women is subjective, and the world shouldn’t conform to your beliefs just because you *feel* a certain way.” Saying you should get over it is a suggestion.

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Anonymous #4 12w

are there any other reasons you have to not want trans women in women’s spaces outside of the fact you think they’re dangerous and they make you uncomfortable? your emotional discomfort shouldn’t trump their right to the spaces that they belong in how is it any different than white people being uncomfortable around black people after segregation?

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Anonymous #4 12w

Also I didn’t like, say a lot of that??

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Anonymous #4 12w

you’re all about women’s rights but want to deny trans women their rights, seems counter-intuitive because trans women are in fact women

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

In reality though all I said is that ive experienced what its like to be silenced in order to affirm the feelings of trans women, and that its a mockery because xyz, and its just “you’re a liar stop whining don’t speak” etc etc. Just such a joke. And all of the above listed things has been said by one of u 3 in this interaction

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Anonymous #4 12w

Please stop ignoring my question. How is you feeling uncomfortable letting trans women into women’s spaces any different than white people feeling uncomfortable letting black people into buses or schools after segregation? As you said, they’re “dangerous” and it makes you “uncomfortable”

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Anonymous #1 12w

I did not say they are dangerous and I have not once no trans women should be allowed in women’s restrooms/locker rooms. I’m providing perspective. “Social unity but im not willing to have the hard and real discussions in order to get there so you’re a bigot and stop speaking”

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Anonymous #4 12w

Not once said*

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Anonymous #4 12w

“I never claimed trans women are violent (even tho they have been recently)” is implicitly claiming they’re violent, something you said verbatim “…doesn’t mean I have to swallow my discomfort so that a small minority can make a mockery of women.” — you suggesting trans women doing things that cis women do makes you uncomfortable But sure you never said that 🫩

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Anonymous #1 12w

So im allowed to speak on discomfort, and stating that there have been recent cases where trans women have turned to violence is actually not implicitly claiming they’re violent in nature 🫩

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Anonymous #4 12w

“I’m not claiming black people are violent (even though they have been recently)” If you switch up the minority group, can you still get away with it? If the answer is no, you’re on the wrong side of history.

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Anonymous #4 12w

what you said was 100% implicitly claiming they’re violent, how is “even tho they have been violent recently” not calling trans women violent? 😭

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

It’s more like if I said that men have been violent recently and so you take that as im saying men in general are violent. See how that’s illogical

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Anonymous #4 12w

I’m just saying. If swapping the minority group you’re talking about with black makes it look real bad, you’re probably wrong.

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Anonymous #4 12w

that’s why I said “implicit”, it gives you plausible deniability while still making a claim, it’s your way of saying it while being easily able to backtrack and yeah saying “even tho men have been violent recently” would be calling men in general violent as of recent

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Anonymous #1 12w

You seriously are so sensitive that “trans women have been violent recently” is calling all trans women violent? Just accept im not saying that and move on

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Anonymous #4 12w

The statement looks pretty bad if you swap trans people with any other minority group.

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Anonymous #4 12w

I mean that’s what it’s implicitly saying whether you like it or not

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Anonymous #1 12w

True

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Anonymous #1 12w

I mean it’s hard when that is an objective statement but isn’t the point I was making. To be clear on my stand there: though several trans women have chosen violence recently that does not mean all trans women r violent. I did not mean to make it seem like trans women are a monolith

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Anonymous #4 12w

Stance

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Anonymous #4 12w

If it’s an objective statement then prove it

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

I was referring to the back to back shootings committed by trans women

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Anonymous #4 12w

Do they commit a lot of shootings per capita? Or just like, the two times?

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Anonymous #4 12w

Cause if we’re calling whole groups violent for only TWO shootings then damn conservatives ought to go to a supermax from birth

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 12w

Literally just those two recent examples I was referring to, the intention was never to label an entire community as violent

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Anonymous #4 12w

Still zero examples. Maybe if you gave an example instead of wasting time you’d earn your right to speak back

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Epic burn my brother in Christ

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Anonymous #4 12w

then maybe you shouldn’t have done that, idk tho, just some advice

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Anonymous #1 12w

True

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Anonymous #1 12w

I didn’t💙

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Ok I’ll tell you just because you’re respectful. I had to switch gyms because at the one i went to there were 3 instances: one trans woman walked past me in the locker room with their d!ck out, and two were standing in the locker room shirtless. That is sexual harassment and completely unacceptable, hope this helps pea brain

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Anonymous #4 12w

okay so a trans woman being naked in the women’s locker room is sexual harassment? That’s the craziest reach I’ve ever heard LMFAO are you even real

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Anonymous #1 12w

See this is how i know you’ve never been in a locker room, let alone a gym LMAO that’s insanely inappropriate

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Anonymous #4 12w

Legally that’s not sexual harassment. So no, it doesn’t affect you (and I doubt anything happened either way)

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Anonymous #4 12w

Do you know a lot of trans people?

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Anonymous #4 12w

Do you wanna try again with another example or

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Damn yall, do dudes just walk around with their dicks out staring at each other, because that’s not how we do it in women’s areas and they should learn how to behave lol. Some perverts

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

Yes! if you say please

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Anonymous #4 12w

Doesn’t matter. It’s not sexual harassment. You can try again with another story if you’d like

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Anonymous landtrust 12w

“It doesn’t matter if they’re perverted” you’re so dumb. Say please

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Anonymous #4 11w

Your opinion doesn’t matter is what I said. But the substance of my argument was it’s not sexual harassment according to law. Will you stay on topic or do you concede?

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

😂 that’s fine and normal to you because (knowing no details) it’s not legally defined as sexual harassment? Incel alert! Still waiting on you to say please

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Anonymous #4 11w

I never said it was fine or normal (thats a different debate we can have after we close this one), please try and stick to the argument instead of changing the subject. But since you admitted it’s not sexual harassment, my question is this. Do you have any other examples of it affecting you or was that it?

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

I dont at all admit it wasn’t sexual harassment, that’s what you decided knowing no details. It’s not up for debate whether or not that’s fine or normal. Discussing my experience is pretty on topic so not even sure what to do with that piece. I accidentally misgendered a trans woman at work and she had a mental breakdown, screaming at me. I understand she felt triggered but it was an honest mistake & she had no right to get in my face. it was actually frightening

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Anonymous #4 11w

I’ve had lovely interactions with trans people as well, but there ARE some crazies out there, and to deny that or claim they have no affect on others is pure delusion

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Anonymous #4 11w

Yeah at least in male locker rooms there’s always butt ass naked old dudes zoning out

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Anonymous #1 11w

Gross ! Women don’t do that, if you’re joining our club then come correct

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Anonymous #4 11w

I honestly just don’t believe you. Every trans woman I’ve ever met has been insecure to be perceived the way you perceive them. You can prove any harm. Idk it just sounds like you have bigotry issues

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 11w

That honestly goes unsaid. I been knowing my experiences would fall on deaf ears. real life occurrences nonetheless

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Anonymous #4 11w

You never contested it, so unless you can provide some detail, it didn’t happen. Also your story sounds like a Disney fairy tale. And yes, liars should have their free speech restricted

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Anonymous #4 11w

Let’s hop on a discord voice call to prove you’re not a man. Honestly that’s the most likely scenario of what actually happened

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Go ahead and set that up if that’s what you need

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Anonymous #4 11w

Okay. Let me know the account

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

I have to make a discord account so that some random can see im a girl ? What‘s my benefit here

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Anonymous #4 11w

Everyone thinks you’re a liar that’s why

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Oh that’s not really my problem

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Anonymous #4 11w

So you refuse ? 😂

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Yeah dude you thinking im a man is of no concern

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Anonymous #4 11w

Nothing to hide nothing to fear. You’re guilty

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Ok

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

See? People like this have nothing more to add. They know they are criminals but they don’t care.

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Talking to yourself bud

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Anonymous #4 11w

awful bait

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

I’m loling, *tags self* “see?”

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Anonymous #4 11w

Are you forty? Who says “I’m loling”

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Love you guys

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Anonymous #4 11w

lowkey sums up this whole conversation perfectly

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Anonymous #4 11w

All criminals deserve to be locked up

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Amen

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