Anonymous #2 5w

My world view is pretty straightforward. I wouldn’t fault a psychopath for not understanding something completely foreign to them. When they hear about emotions causing irrational behavior it’s probably like when we hear about praying mantises killing after mating. Would I lock a fucker up for exploiting people? Hell yeah, but I wouldn’t say they are a bad person because they can never understand the harm they cause. I feel the same way about ignorance due to immediate surroundings.

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Anonymous #3 5w

Getting yelled at by traditionalist parents can cause avoidance, you think everyone growing in a traditionalist household is going to be able to out debate their parents, or that their parents will even allow debate? People are conditioned into beliefs from the moment they are able to reason, nobody just is, we are a product of our environment. I think it’s in poor taste to hate someone for having an incomplete perspective.

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Anonymous #4 5w

Also think there are other parties that aren’t centrist because they fall outside of the left right dichotomy

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Anonymous #4 5w

I don’t think “I hate white people” is a mainstream idea among democrats like “I hate minorities” is among republicans. There’s some left wing people like that but usually this perception that the left says that arises from conservatives viewing efforts towards equality as persecution against whites.

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Anonymous OP 5w

“I want to punch every white person I see” got like 20 upvotes in my colleges yikyak a couple days ago.

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Anonymous #3 5w

First let me provide the context that I am a white man myself so keep that in mind. The best way I can explain this is that meme that goes something along the lines of “every time a woman says she hates men she brings up all the times men have hurt her and every time a man says he hates women he goes on a rant about how he wants them to be sex slaves.”

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Anonymous OP 5w

The “I hate white people” attitude is very often driven by personal negative experiences at the hand of systematic oppression and racism. Also, often times people say that as like a weird joke and it gets mixed in with the handful of people who are actually serious about it and it’s a whole weird thing.

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Anonymous OP 5w

But, it has to be emphasized that “having white people” isn’t a mainstream viewpoint in any American political group. Random people on the internet say that sometimes but not only is there not a desire to systematically harm white people, but those random people don’t have influence over politics

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Anonymous OP 5w

*hating white people

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Anonymous OP 5w

Democratic (and leftist, those are different) political groups don’t have white people. They want to dismantle the systematic harms of white supremacy. But conservatives scare a lot of white men by saying “look they hate white people! Some random TikTok girl said that! You should now oppose affirmative action”

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Anonymous OP 5w

I am a white man involved in progressive spaces and nobody actually hates me. I was told leftists hate me by conservatives on the internet when I was younger, but I found that’s not the case. Sometimes people say things which can make me uncomfortable because I come from a privileged place, but I never really encounter actual hate.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I completely understand that these two things are contextually very different, but the major issue is something you just said, these sentiments, which I literally see regularly on this app in my colleges yikyak, are keeping people in harmful perceptions and giving strength to harmful narratives. Hate is cyclical and profitable, why don’t we all just hate that.

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Anonymous #3 5w

Yeah I recognize that the “man-hating” is overblown and not the same severity of hatred but like it’s still fuckin stupid nobody should be actually hateful and phrasing hatred for the patriarchy as “I hate men” is very counter-productive. Just wanted to emphasize the two “hates” are not the same

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Anonymous OP 5w

Whether or not you want to argue that the basis for discrimination can validate it or not, (Im referencing “I want to punch all white people” specifically here) as long as people aren’t intentionally saying things that piss off other people for being a part of another demographic, I will keep my views to myself.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I said “I can’t imagine walking around with all that hate” to the first one, and when some dumb ass reposted it with “I want to punch all Hawaiians,” being a little bit Hawaiian, I lost my temper for the first time in a minute, telling them they are the same person just different font and even though I disagreed with the first post I’d make an exception. I’m not perfect myself, but I don’t think what either of them did is ok.

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Anonymous #3 5w

I feel that bc Im a former conservative since thats all I grew up around, and theres no way Id win a debate against my parents on anything, and they wouldnt accept losing a debate no matter what. But at some point someones gonna show you a new perspective. And if you dont change when you know better theres something wrong with your character. Whether ur just stubborn like i was for a lil while or you really are kinda slimy theres something wrong.

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Anonymous #5 4w

For me it took years of bringing things up subtly to make certain things that they would want to avoid palatable, you can’t just do it all at once, there’s many different things that they would use to reaffirm their beliefs and there’s no way they’d concede on all of them at the same time. You’re probably not going to be able to change everything either. He isn’t religious so that probably made it a lot easier too.

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Anonymous #3 4w

I was using myself and my views as an example for my point. I feel like its reasonable to fault someone for not changing when they learn better because it reveals something bad about their character, even though theres some things that could be wrong that are worse than others. As for my parents, I just bite my tongue because I know debating them or trying to open their eyes to some shit is a waste of time and I got better things to put my energy into than that.

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