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So question how come bald eagles eggs are protected under federal law but human fetuses aren’t?
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Anonymous 24w

Because these are two fundamentally different legal doctrines: environmental conservation vs. constitutional human rights Bald eagle protections are rooted in wildlife management and the Endangered Species Act, whereas human legal status is defined by the 14th Amendment, which balances the rights of the fetus with the established bodily autonomy of the pregnant person.

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Anonymous 24w

Because bald eagles are a threatened species. Humans are not a threatened species.

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Anonymous 24w

Because you're protecting the species

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 24w

Ok so you’re coming from a legal standpoint. What exactly in the 14th amendment approves abortion? Also, do you think morality factors into this debate at all?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 24w

You care about eagles more than humans??

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 24w

Abortion rights imo should be based in the due process clause, which prohibits the government from depriving any person of “liberty” without due process of law For nearly 50 years under Roe v. Wade, SCOTUS interpreted “liberty” to include a fundamental right to privacy. This privacy encompasses intimate personal decisions, including whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 24w

True liberty is impossible without bodily integrity, the absolute right to control your own physical body and medical decisions without government intrusion. I also think the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause should protect abortion, as restricting abortion targets women and pregnant individuals specifically, denying them the same social, economic, and physical autonomy enjoyed by men.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 24w

It should be illegal to take eagle eggs and it should be illegal to take someone else's fetus. It should not be illegal for an eagle or a person to abort their own offspring.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 24w

And yes, morality is central to my argument. It is fundamentally immoral to force a person to undergo the profound physical risks, pain, and life-altering consequences of pregnancy and childbirth against their will. Restricting abortion leads to measurable human suffering, including higher maternal mortality rates, increased poverty, and worse health outcomes for existing children. We should prioritize the health and survival of the living person.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 24w

It’s simply ridiculous for the government to codify one specific religious doctrine into law for everyone.

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Anonymous 24w

And eagle eggs aren’t eagles

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 24w

So you do understand lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 24w

Just using #4s logic

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Anonymous 24w

It just confuses me how we give more rights to eagles than humans

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 24w

Does the law say eagles can't abort their own eggs?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 24w

We give more rights to humans by allowing them to choose whether or not to go through their pregnancy

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Anonymous 24w

About to go extinct is a stretch, plus even if that were the case, bald eagles would still be more endangered than humans

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Anonymous 24w

That was never the danger from global warming. Massive refugee crises doesn’t mean global endangerment of the species.

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