Anonymous _orangutan 21w

(They don’t know that I’ve been supporting her already 🤫)

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Anonymous #2 21w

Trains are my passion

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Anonymous #2 21w

I think you gotta be 35 but you can sure try lol

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Anonymous OP 21w

Meet me in 13.5 years

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Anonymous #2 21w

California High Speed Rail Project believers are having a tough time right now 😔

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Anonymous OP 21w

Texas has no High Speed Rail believers, we have all given up hope

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Anonymous #4 21w

Famously pro-Palestine

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Anonymous #5 21w

Negotiated two ceasefires including one right after the war started and consistently pressured Netanyahu to increase aid in the strip and curtail military operations. I feel like you might just want someone who has the correct opinion but also doesn’t care about being effective in geopolitics.

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Anonymous #4 21w

You’re saying that Joe Biden was effective in protecting Palestinian civilians? I dunno if you watch basketball, but you remind me of the kind of NBA fan who hyped up Russell Wilson for padding his stats every fourth quarter, as opposed to bringing legitimate success to his team.

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Anonymous #5 21w

Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl with his team. I don’t know what sport you watch, but I’m talking about geopolitics. You can poo-poo Biden because he didn’t throw a tantrum and scream “Ceasefire now” on TV the way you wanted him to, but he absolutely was effective in reducing Palestinian casualties and suffering. Trump will allow Israel to ethnically cleanse Gaza and large parts of the West Bank and you will be sat here going “Well, the Democrats are just as bad.” Keep yourself safe.

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Anonymous #4 21w

Damn. Russell Westbrook is who I was referring to. Good catch.

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Anonymous #4 21w

I’m not arguing that Trump is more humane than Biden; I’m arguing that Biden was bad on Palestine in an absolute sense. I recall Biden forking over military and financial aid to Israel after 10/7 after it was clear that Israel was targeting civilians and not allowing humanitarian aid to go into Gaza. I feel like he could have tightened the leash on Israel way more than he did. I also recall him claiming to build a wharf in Gaza to bring in humanitarian aid, but nothing ever came of that.

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Anonymous #5 21w

Nothing ever came of the wharf because it collapsed after a couple of aid shipments iirc. This is what I mean about geopolitics, although I disagree that it ever became clear that Israel was “targeting” civilians. If that were the case the death toll would be much, much higher, I think in some cases they’ve just been incredibly cavalier with accepting civilian casualties. cont…

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Anonymous #4 21w

Okay, so the wharf failed. I’m not giving Biden a participation trophy for a failed aid effort.

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Anonymous #4 21w

Do you remember the stories about Israel dropping high yield unguided bombs? They were doing this when possible to avoid using their better precision munitions because, with Hezbollah shelling the north of Israel every day for over a year and poised to invade causing 100k+ people to evacuate, Israel was unwilling to make itself vulnerable by depleting its armory. It seems counterintuitive but giving more precise weapons to the Israelis did in fact save Palestinian lives.

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Anonymous #4 21w

I’m sorry, I reject the notion that Israel needed to be bombing Gaza in the first place. They have one of the most advanced militaries in the world, and they did not need to crater the entire Gaza strip to “go after Hamas”.

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Anonymous #4 21w

Also, the primary reason Hezbollah was fighting with Israel during that time was because of Israel’s campaign in Gaza. So again, I reject a lot of these presuppositions that you’re making.

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Anonymous #5 21w

What, did you think the meme of “they should have sent special forces in or something” was anything other than a meme repeated by idiots? lmao Do you think the Israeli public have an appetite for door to door urban warfare in the most heavily booby trapped environment that would probably kill tens of thousands of IDF troops if not result in them losing the war outright?

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Anonymous #4 21w

The most heavily booby trapped environment in the history of warfare***

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Anonymous #4 21w

Urban warfare sounds very not fun for IDF troops, but I’d rather that outcome than tens of thousands of dead civilians.

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Anonymous #5 21w

What makes you think the IDF going door to door would result in fewer civilian casualties? There’s no good evidence that that’s the case. There’s pretty remarkable evidence of what it would’ve meant for the IDF death toll.

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Anonymous #4 21w

I mean, it really would depend on how the IDF approached their urban warfare strategy (and how refugee-focused they wanted to be), but few things are more efficient at killing civilians than systematically bombing city blocks. Also, I’m just axiomatically going to prioritize civilian lives over combatant lives, especially when the IDF has access to drones.

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Anonymous #7 21w

Ossoff maybe but he’s not the strongest on Palestine

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Anonymous #7 21w

Obviously this app is going to be skewed in favor of AOC (she is my ideal candidate, too), but I’m worried that the broader electorate is so cooked that we’re going to have to settle for an Ossoff or Newsome.

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Anonymous #5 21w

I mean Ossoff is a lot better of a candidate then Newsom imo he’s not perfect at all but he’s actually good at politics

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Anonymous #5 21w

Here’s the thing: there is no group homogeneous enough to win any election by giving everybody 100% of what they want. I’m nervous that the left is so splintered right now that we can’t make compromises, and will end up with 0% of what we want instead.

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Anonymous #2 21w

I totally agree with both you and #7. I’m certainly not an AOC-or-bust voter; I just don’t see the fascism problem going away under another center-left president. But I’ll happily support whoever the Dem candidate is in 2028.

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Anonymous #7 21w

Ossoff is probably a better option than Newsom, yes.

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Anonymous #5 21w

I’m honestly convinced he’s the 2nd best option other then AOC just cause of his age and way of politics and he’s also semi progressive but I’d want to wait and see his full platform

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Anonymous #7 21w

Totally fair. I like that he’d likely sway Georgia (a very tricky swing state).

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Anonymous #3 21w

Hi autism nice to meet you

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Anonymous #5 21w

I didn’t see your comment about the reason for Hezbollah’s bombing being Israel’s campaign in Gaza. This is just factually incorrect, as Hezbollah began attacking on October 8th, 19 days before Israeli forces entered Gaza. Hezbollah’s military campaign is unambiguously not in retaliation for anything, but simply Hezbollah trying to kill Jews as they’ve always done. Beep beep.

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Anonymous #4 21w

I said *primary* reason. Of course Hezbollah has always hated Israel.

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Anonymous #5 21w

Can Hezbollah time travel? Without that, I’m confused about how their offensive was primarily motivated by something that happened after it started.

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Anonymous #4 21w

I think it’s fair for me to concede that their initial attacks were moreso motivated by hatred of Israel and solidarity with Hamas. That being said, your argument about the types of munitions that Israel used is predicated on the fact that Hezbolla scaled up their attacks against Israel in proportion to the ramp-up in severity of Israel’s operations in Gaza, so I still believe that my objection stands.

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Anonymous #5 21w

In other words, I still believe that the primary reason that Hezbolla ramped up attacks on northen Israel after 10/8 was because of Israel’s atrocities in Gaza, and that’s why I object to your munitions argument.

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Anonymous #5 21w

Not really the case either. Hezbollah was always a greater existential threat to Israel than Hamas, and Israel would not have overextended itself and diminished its capacity to wage war on Hezbollah whether they were shelling in the north or not.

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Anonymous #4 21w

And again, I’m not sure how you can say Hezbollah ramped up attacks in the north in response to Israel’s atrocities in Gaza when these supposed atrocities hadn’t happened yet. We don’t see an increase in attacks in the north in response to any particular thing, it was fairly consistent from 10/8 until Israel completely destroyed Hezbollah’s ability to wage war.

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Anonymous #4 21w

I’m talking about over the course of the next year and some change.

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Anonymous #4 21w

Okay, but under the context of Biden, we ostensibly wouldn’t have been giving Israel any more aid than we did prior to 10/7, had they not been dealing with two fronts.

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Anonymous #5 21w

No, they would’ve had the risk of two fronts whether the attacks occurred or not and would have behaved in the same way. The only thing Hezbollah’s attacks did was displace Israeli civilians in the north and possibly hasten the Israeli offensive in Lebanon that was already being planned for years.

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Anonymous #4 21w

Risk is not the same thing as willfully expending munitions to strip-bomb Gaza while fending off Hezbollah in the north. If we’re talking about ~risk~, Israel could have been at ~risk~ of dealing with multiple fronts at any point in time in the recent past.

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Anonymous #5 21w

*electively is probably a better word than willfully.

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Anonymous #5 21w

Yes, and they weren’t depleting their munitions inventory at any time in the recent past either.

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Anonymous #4 21w

My point is that they never *had* to bomb Gaza. Drone swarms and urban warfare were completely on the table for them.

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Anonymous #4 21w

I feel like you’re taking using bombs/artillery on two fronts as a given in your argument.

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Anonymous #5 21w

I’m assuming you’re not a veteran, because if you were you’d know how stupid this sounds lmao. Drones have limited range and are best used as support for troops on the ground. Why would you send troops into the most booby trapped theater in the history of warfare to go door to door when you could tell civilians to evacuate from an area, bomb your objective, and move on to the next one?

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Anonymous #4 21w

Israel was trying to order massive amounts of people to move around in Gaza in unreasonably short time windows as a part of their advance notices. Let’s spare the pretext that they were doing “ethical” strikes.

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Anonymous #4 21w

Drones sound perfect for urban warfare, based on your objection. Have you been following their usage in Ukraine, or seen the drone footage of Israel killing the leader of Hamas a few months ago?

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The Iron Dome is there to protect Arabs, bro. If you want to see a genocide, watch what happens if it’s not there anymore.

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#10 is a pretty perfect example of one of these TikTok dipshits who have no desire for their leaders to actually be effective in geopolitics as long as they say the things that make them feel good.

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You’re ticking all the boxes, I’m sure if you try real hard you can think of a way to blame Israel for World War 2 as well. You don’t really care about Palestinian lives as much as you want to be seen to care. Your policy proposals will result in more suffering for everyone in the region and probably ethnic cleansing of the West Bank and Gaza.

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