Anonymous #2 14w

Its one night a year, im pretty sure you’ll be fine

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

You’re all 3 wrong

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Anonymous OP 14w

These dogs don’t know what holiday it is, they are not fine lmao

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Anonymous OP 14w

I’m 4th option

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Anonymous #2 14w

They’ll make it, obviously because you keep watching them

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

You’re 4? Bro go to bed its past your bedtime

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Anonymous OP 14w

If you see how bad one of client’s dogs get… he tries to burrow into my head. Even on a bunch of trazodone. Poor guy was abandoned in a tropical storm, he’s traumatized by loud bangs

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Anonymous OP 14w

Also what about the war veterans yall are so obsessed with. You know they have ptsd, too, right 😭

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Anonymous #2 14w

Damn the owner lowkey sucks for not bringing the dog somewhere on the 4th where they dont light off fireworks. L

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Anonymous #2 14w

My uncles are war vets and host the parties every year

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Anonymous OP 14w

But you’re aware that many of them get flashbacks from the fireworks right… like your uncles are just a couple ppl

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Anonymous #2 14w

War vets who see combat can tell you the difference between gun calibers by hearing the noise, I don't think they'll mind a firework. Counter condition your dogs by playing firework sounds and lighting off small ones, or take them somewhere that they can't hear the noise and put on some white noise.

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Anonymous #2 14w

You’re aware that my uncles light off badass fireworks and its cool as fuck right?

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Anonymous #2 14w

Lets go back to how you’re in charge of a traumatized dog but you keep them around fireworks every 4th

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Anonymous #3 14w

They’re not my dogs, my client’s instructions are to keep him inside safe, give him trazodone, close the blinds and put on loud tv. He is so bad he won’t even take a step outside if there’s thunder or lightning. He would drag my back home if I tried to take him outside. He’s strong af And that’s just not true, like it’s a known thing that fireworks can trigger veterans. If you have ptsd, you know your triggers can be really irrational

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Anonymous OP 14w

And they’re like 2 ppl out of millions…your personal anecdote is irrelevant? I keep them around fireworks?? Huh 😭 no we go inside, away from any possible fireworks

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Anonymous #2 14w

Your client sucks, tell them to bring that dog somewhere quiet

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Anonymous #2 14w

You wont even bring then far enough away from the fireworks to where they wont be terrified, L dog sitter

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Anonymous OP 14w

Their neighborhood actually isn’t that bad. They’re not close to any shows. But some kids in the neighborhood shoot off the store bought kind. Kids do that all over

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Anonymous #2 14w

Ok, but as a human with PTSD or severe anxiety from fireworks you can control your exposure to them yourself, and as a dog you can be trained to have lesser or no anxiety through counter conditioning (by the way this is also a highly effective treatment for PTSD in people so if you, as a war vet, go and have some food and/or drinks with family/friends while hearing explosion noises instead of being shot or seeing buddies die, it may be effective counter conditioning on its own)

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Anonymous OP 14w

Per contract, im not even allowed to take them in my car, like the insurance doesn’t cover for that

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Anonymous #2 14w

Why would you sign that contract knowing you can’t help them

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Anonymous #2 14w

Veterinarians make anxiety wraps and hearing protection for dogs as well

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Anonymous #3 14w

the dogs they're sitting didn't help bomb kids for u.s. interests, they're animals that don't know any better and deserve not to have their peace disturbed

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Anonymous #3 14w

Okay but as someone who has ptsd, during my worst and most recent episode I almost didn’t survive. I was in therapy twice a week and medicated but you can’t just heal ptsd overnight. You have to counter condition your triggers when it’s safe to. That’s why my therapist wouldn’t do EMDR on me for years bc I wasn’t ready and it could be too triggering. Thankfully now I’m a lot better but it took years of therapy Fireworks triggers so many living beings, it’s just really unnecessary

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Anonymous #4 14w

Then counter condition them, a lot of hunting dogs get similar results from just having the normal gun shot acclimation that's part of their training.

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Anonymous OP 14w

Bruh what even are you talking about. We live in a city… ppl shoot off fireworks everywhere

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Anonymous #2 14w

Right, part of counter conditioning is replacing the negative stimulus with a neutral or positive one. If you don't do that it's just acclimation.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Yeah for real, people will complain about how scared their dog is around loud noises and then just like not do anything about it

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Anonymous OP 14w

Ppl usually try everything, their dogs are still traumatized

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Anonymous #2 14w

Its one night a year, take the dog out of the city then if its truly that traumatic

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Anonymous OP 14w

Taking the dogs outside of the house, even on a walk, is a liability as a petsitter

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Anonymous #2 14w

They could get a petsitter in another place, I dont think you’re the only one

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Anonymous #2 14w

I mean there are seriously a lot of options for most people before they end up just leaving them like that, if the dog you're sitting has exceptional hearing and a heavy trauma response based on loud noises similar to fireworks, it's in the minority and I'm sorry. Still, it can't be impossible to drown out the noises with something more pleasant or go to a room which is quieter.

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Anonymous #2 14w

Then the pets sitters and war vets can ask me to stop and if they ask politely I will (none have yet to do so). Until then I will continue to exercise my God-given right to light up copious amounts of colored explosives and dance around like a madman while singing Sweet Caroline

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