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To condemn Hamas is to say that Palestine has no right to defend itself. Hamas are innocent freedom fighters demonized by western media. The are the rightful rulers of Israel, Palestine, and Jerusalem
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Anonymous 11w

This is why I never understood the idea that an oppressed people cannot support a bad revolutionary interim governance. Hamas literally has it baked into the creed of the ideology to kill all Jewish people. I don't think thats any better than what the IDF is doing in Gaza and Iran and Lebanon.

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Anonymous 11w

Okay man now when you say shit like they are innocent and the rightful rulers, you’re literally just handing arguments for your stupidity to genocide supporters

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Anonymous 11w

You’re the type of person who would be glazing the Khmer Rouge in the 70s just because they were anti-colonial.

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Anonymous 11w

Hamas is definitely not innocent. Neither is Israel

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

Cause while Hamas are demonized and are fighting their oppressors, they do also engage in acts of terrorism and attacks on civilians

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Now does that justify what the IDF is doing across the Middle East? Of course not. But sticking your head in the sand isn't going to get rid of the problems

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Could you point to where it says kill all Jewish people. /gen

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

No but the IDF doesn’t use children as suicide bombers. When one side resorts to those tactics the other side tends to also stop fighting by the laws of war and do what they need to do to end things and their soldiers only priority becomes surviving even if that means shooting a surrendering enemy combatant because you don’t want to search them for a suicide vest and risk getting blown up by a suicide bomber. This kind of thing happened in Afghanistan as well.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11w

War really brings people to do horrific things to save your brothers in arms and go home to their families. There was a lot of similar tactics used in the pacific in WW2. We fought an enemy just as fanatic if not more so.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11w

Israel uses children as human shields. They have built their infrastructure in civilian centers. A large portion of the country is also former or active members of the IDF, the same group who kills children and commits war crimes. This is important context.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 11w

I’ve never heard of them using children as human shields. I’m not saying it hasn’t happened. Usually they are accused of shooting civilians and things like that which can be justified if the enemy is dressed as civilians. Using Palestinians as human shields would be impossible to justify.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 11w

Yes, read the 1988 Hamas Charter.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11w

I meant using their own children as shields, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they used Palestinian children too.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

And they revised their charter. So plewse point out where is says.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 11w

Like the line that they are innocent freedom fighters demonized by western media is like practically word for word what a number of left-leaning western academics and journalists said about the Khmer Rouge. This is because they felt that if they did acknowledge those atrocities, then they would be giving ground to capitalists and would be undermining the international view of communism.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 11w

Conveniently, as soon as Vietnam invaded Cambodia to stop the Khmer Rouge, these people suddenly began acknowledging how bad they were. Because now it was no longer seen as disloyalty to communism, because the anti-Khmer Rouge Vietnamese were also communist.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 11w

This isn’t to say that Hamas has committed atrocities anywhere close to the scale of the Khmer Rouge. But it’s to say that militant groups of any alignment can commit atrocities, and that it’s incredibly naive and irresponsible to think that the motivations or circumstance of their origin means that a group can do no wrong.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11w

I do believe I read either a Haaretz or a Guardian article that detailed interviews with IDF soldiers about how battalions would have designated Palestinian civilians known as mosquitos who would be sent into tunnels to clear mines

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 11w

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/10/israeli-soldiers-breaking-ranks-gaza-civilians-human-shields Yes it was a guardian article about the use of civilian Gazans as human shields to map underground tunnels.

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