Anonymous #3 2w

Perhaps some of least serious, weakest, most pathetic, sniveling little freaks to ever walk this planet

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Anonymous #9 2w

No way you’re defending murder by domestic terrorists…

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Anonymous #12 2w

I’m not. He should have stayed him if he were alive he would agree with me. You wouldn’t do this madness. I would only engage in these protests if I had the numbers on my side and the means to not get pushed around. He died surrounded by ICE agents. Where were you at?

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Anonymous #9 2w

You’re definitely defending murder against unarmed civilians by domestic terrorists.

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Anonymous #11 2w

I think you’re missing some important context though. Kyle Rittenhouse traveled like 45 minutes to an hour out of his way to an ongoing riot scene with a giant semi-automatic rifle. Pretti was a Minneapolis native with a concealed carry permit, and asserting that he was an “aggressor” for helping a woman up and maybe verbally confronting agents for shoving her while recording them is pretty questionable

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Anonymous #11 2w

I understand Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense from a legal perspective, but to say he was trapped in that situation, when he went out of his way to be there, knowing he’d probably attract violence, makes him far from a blameless victim in my opinion

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Anonymous OP 2w

I am well aware of that context. It’s exactly why I said “at the time of the shooting”. Ritt was absolutely trapped there by a mass of protestors, again as the video clearly shows. Should he have gone in the first place? Probably not. Pretti should have stayed home too. This idea that you’re going to effectively oppose any official police force in the streets without militant organization is naive. Anyone who tries should be ready to surrender their life if they refuse to deescalate.

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Anonymous #11 2w

This is the most brain dead take ever. “Don’t do the things the constitution allows you to do protected”

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Anonymous #11 2w

Also rottenhouse had the intention to harm others, he shouldn’t have been allowed to carry any weapons. Period.

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Anonymous #11 2w

I’m sorry, does confronting the police give them the right to execute you in the street? There isn’t any other method the officers could have taken to deescalate besides kill him? And you’re making it out like he went there with the intention of killing ICE agents on the basis that he carried a gun. The video shows he never even put his hand on it either. So could I not, by the same logic, conclude Kyle Rittenhouse went to the riots with the intention to kill?

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Anonymous #12 2w

The constitution does not protect your right to assault federal agents 💀 This is exactly what I’m talking about lmao.

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Anonymous #11 2w

Nobody assaulted federal agents.

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Anonymous #11 2w

hey pal not sure if you saw the video- he was disarmed first. a pair of glasses and a brain will do you wonders.

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Anonymous #13 2w

Kristi Noem said she “doesn’t know of any peaceful protestor that shows up with a gun and ammunition instead of a sign”

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Anonymous OP 2w

I never said anything about Pretti’s intentions, maybe you’re mixing me up with another commenter? You’re raising a point about providing better non-lethal technology and training for the police, which I absolutely agree is needed.

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Anonymous #11 2w

You suggested he was “opposing an official police force” and that doing so “without militant organization” was “naive.” That kinda sounds like you’re saying he was going there with the plan of forcefully opposing the police. And if that’s not what you’re saying, then I don’t really understand what your overall point is to say that killing him was justified

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Anonymous OP 2w

Woah - I never said Pretti’s killing was justified. Remember, your initial argument was that these two cases are comparable. I disagree. Please stay focused, as you’re not arguing with the cartoon image of a Republican in your head, you’re arguing with an actual person. He absolutely was opposing an official police force, and clearly naive of how dangerously untrained ICE is to handle protest situations. Don’t fuck with them unless you accept the danger you’re putting yourself in.

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Anonymous #11 2w

Protesting is a given right and nobody deserves to die because they are exercising their rights. We should feel free to exercise those rights regardless of where we are. Don’t tell protesters to stay home when it’s not them that is the problem

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Anonymous #12 2w

Yep, right after the woman assaults the officer and is pushed to the ground, Pretti assaults the same officer just before being pepper sprayed. The concept that there were some monks simply passing through and they were “executed” is ridiculous. There are simply no peaceful protestors in the entire video

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Anonymous #11 2w

Pretti gets in the way of the officer to STOP HIM FROM CONTINUING HIS ASSAULT KN AN INNOCENT WOMAN. Gtfo.

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Anonymous #11 2w

My initial point really has less to do with these being apples to apples comparisons than it does the way conservative media reacts to people bringing guns to protests and the expectation that someone can just kill you for doing that. In one case the guy that brings a huge gun that he acquired through a semi-loophole and actually killed people with it is a hero, in the other case he’s “looking for violence” for having a handgun which he has a permit to carry and never threatened to use

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Anonymous #12 2w

Protesting is certainly important, but how it’s done is important too. Screaming at some boot in an ICE jacket doesn’t have anything to do with social or legislative change. Let me ask you this. How do you think that woman feels? Does she feel proud for insulting one single guy in uniform? Or does she feel guilty for endangering the lives of the people around her? Do you think her actions were worth it?

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Anonymous #11 2w

How do you think protests work? And what do you think they did in the 1960s and 1970s? What do you think is protected speech? You’re not arguing on good faith at all.

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Anonymous #12 2w

Not a single person in this video is innocent. Innocent people would have walked away from that scene and had nothing to do with it. It’s meaningless. It’s mob mentality. It’s self righteous ignorant showmanship. And it cost someone’s life

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Anonymous #11 2w

Pretti is innocent.

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Anonymous #11 2w

This comment literally tells me where you ACTUALLY stand, and it’s disgusting

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Anonymous #11 2w

Really? There’s no “mob mentality” in like 6 officers ganging up on one guy who confronted them and tried to help a woman up? There’s no “self righteous ignorant showmanship” in taking a gun away from a guy pinned to the ground and then emptying the whole magazine on him? Pathetic

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Anonymous OP 2w

I said - “not a single person in this video is innocent”. ICE was never equipped or trained to handle protest environs. I’ve said this here already Lol you keep assuming I love ICE or something. How about you actually read the words I write.

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Anonymous #12 2w

How do protests work? Fascinating question. Non violent protests like the many being held across Europe to prevent further mass migration into their countries are very effective as they show a resolved public centered around a common perspective. Skirmishes with police are essentially meaningless. - unless someone is murdered into martyrism, then suddenly everyone cares. Though cold, this ICE agent just did the Dems a huge favor

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Anonymous #11 2w

If you watched the video, the woman blew a whistle at the agents. She didn’t assault them. They shoved her to the ground, and Alex went to help her up. Then they swarmed him, pushed him to the ground, beat him, disarmed him, and shot him. He was there exercising his first and second amendment rights, as everybody should. He was 100% innocent, as was the woman and all the other protestors present

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Anonymous #11 2w

You do though. You say no one is innocent, yet you’ve been proven wrong time and time again by the fucking constitution.

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Anonymous #11 2w

You’re absolutely worthless.

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Anonymous #6 2w

Lol but you lost to them..

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Anonymous #12 2w

Does that make you feel better?

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Anonymous #12 2w

As an independent I am praying the DNC can put up someone capable of beating whoever the GOP runs in ‘28. But by god re running “defund the police” craze is the biggest facepalm moment I can imagine. Please just keep your composure

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Anonymous #11 2w

“He could have left at any time” oh wow so sorry that some people want to defend others from murderous lunatics???? Grow some balls

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Anonymous #14 2w

You can’t put yourself in the street and then call yourself a victim. Sorry bud. The people he was “defending”, as well as the people blowing whistles and screaming, are to blame for the chaos that led to the negligence that resulted in his life being taken.

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Anonymous #11 2w

Have you ever heard of the Boston massacre?

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Anonymous #11 2w

Moron

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Anonymous #14 2w

Those massholes put themselves in the very same danger and discovered the consequences the same way. What’s your point?

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Anonymous #11 2w

So you’re against all forms of protest that aren’t 100% peaceful. In other words, you don’t understand how the world works. Protests are meant to scare those in power by demonstrating the power of the people. After a certain amount of time, peaceful protests become pointless when those in power couldn’t care less. Only immoral people who don’t understand history stand by and think that those who put themselves in danger to protect our freedoms deserve to die for it.

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Anonymous #11 2w

Not to mention that he was just there recording. And then he tried to protect a woman who was being assaulted. And he was murdered for it. Did you expect him to just step back and let them beat her up and kidnap her? That’s what a lesser person would do. Good people put themselves between overreaching power and the powerless. And you’re trying to make him out to be an idiot who got himself killed due to entirely his own fault.

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Anonymous #11 2w

You are on the side of the oppressors. That’s all there is to it. You are a sheep. And you are not a good person.

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Anonymous #11 2w

“Discovered the consequences” you’re fucking sickening. Get help

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Anonymous #14 2w

If you’re such a hero, how about you get yourself an airsoft gun and run at the nearest armed ICE agent while pointing it at them. That would really show them the power of the people. I’ll commission your mural ❤️

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Anonymous #11 2w

Not a single person was aiming a weapon at them. Ever. GOP shill.

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Anonymous #12 2w

No one said they were.. you have such a huge web of self righteous assumptions in the cogs of your brain that you can’t even read

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Anonymous #11 2w

Yeah, you’re just a terrible person. Karma will get you back some day buddy. Keep sucking on those boots. Won’t be long until they’re kicking your teeth in

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Anonymous #14 2w

What, you’re just going to sit on the sidelines? What are you really doing for the fight, comrade?

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Anonymous #9 2w

“He should have stayed home If he were alive he would agree with me” LMAO WHAT IS THIS DELUSIONAL NONSENSE 💀 bot alert 🚨

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Anonymous #11 2w

What are you doing at all? In any sense of the word? Bye bot

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Anonymous #12 2w

Do you need me to read it for you?

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Anonymous #11 2w

You just told people to do it, implying that’s what protestors are doing. Moron.

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Anonymous #12 2w

Big strong #14 here wants to die for his cause. I’m just explaining the fastest way to make it happen. I’m fr about that mural, they’ll have the angel wings and everything. It’ll really push the needle

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Anonymous #11 2w

GJOAC.

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Anonymous #12 2w

I’m actually going paragliding next month, going to be pretty rad

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Anonymous #11 2w

Bot

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Anonymous #14 2w

In all seriousness, I don’t wish harm to you or anyone else. We should all stay home, study, and vote. Keep yourself out of harms way

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Anonymous #11 2w

In all seriousness, I hope you have family that have to deal with ICE for no reason and get detained because they’re terrorists.

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Anonymous #11 2w

I also, in all seriousness, hope you never procreate or if you do, they realize how terrible of a human you are.

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Anonymous #12 2w

I probably won’t have to deal with ICE, my state didn’t endanger its entire population by bussing in masses of undocumented foreigners.

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Anonymous #11 2w

Oof. Your full blow racism is showing. GJOAC AD.

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Anonymous #12 2w

Wow, foreigners are a race now? And you’re supposed to be the educated one? Yikes bro. What race is foreign to the US?

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Anonymous #12 2w

Also you’ve told me to jump off a cliff twice now like it’s some big mic drop moment. You’re not in an edit lmao

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Anonymous #12 2w

I’ve got to say, seeing people like 11 even implicitly defend this stuff makes me scared. :(

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Anonymous #15 2w

You should be scared. Our modern government is fucking terrifying.

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Anonymous #11 2w

It 100% is. All the more reason to speak out against it, and fight for change

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 2w

Omigosh, it’s Perry the platypus - I’ve seen you around! Your posts are based.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 2w

Yes. For sure. But there are smart ways of doing so, and there are less smart ways of doing so.

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Anonymous #11 2w

The way you’re talking about it, you’re putting all the blame on the guy who was unjustly murdered in the street. He was there using his right to protest. All he did was help a woman up who they’d shoved to the ground. Stop trying to say it was his fault for being there, or he was being unintelligent, or any of that bs. He was speaking up for what’s right and helping another person. Blame the masked agents who shot him, and who likely won’t receive any substantial punishment. Their goal is to-

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 2w

scare us to the point where we won’t speak out against them anymore. It may be dangerous, tbh it almost certainly is. But staying in and staying quiet are far more dangerous, and only allows them to get away with more

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Anonymous #11 2w

You can downvote that doesn’t make it less true 😭

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Honestly I’d be there with them. But if I weren’t, I’d tell them to do what they believe is right and not put themselves in danger unnecessarily. And if they made the choice to protect somebody else in that scenario? I would understand and forever respect that, because while difficult, if the scenario were exactly the same it’d be the right thing to do. And I’d like to think I’d do the same myself

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 2w

Perry, if you had a family member call you and tell you they were at a protest and were actively confronting ICE agents, what would your advice to them be? Tell them they have a duty to protect the other protestors? Tell them to give ICE all the hell they can? Or would you tell them you understand why they’re upset, but suggest they leave to preserve their safety?

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Anonymous #11 2w

the election is over bro. if you have nothing else to brag about after over a year of a presidency clearly it’s not going well 😭😭

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Anonymous #11 2w

I stand by what I said to the first version of your question. They’re standing up for what they believe is right. If I weren’t there myself, I’d tell them to do what the can to stay out of harms way, but if the situation calls for it and they make a call to do the bare minimum and help a woman who was shoved to the ground? I’d say that’s the right call. I’d be upset, obviously. But I respect that choice and would do the same

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 2w

I wanted to add the part about understanding their feelings because I really can understand why people are outraged by this. It’s the reaction that I disagree with. Thank you for clarifying. The fault here is that you are putting some topical policy over your own family. You are creating a situation that introduces so much trauma into the world. And for essentially nothing. I respect your courage, genuinely. But I think one day when you have children you will truly understand unconditional love

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Anonymous #11 2w

And that’s where the disconnect comes in. I don’t see it as putting a policy before family. I see it as them making their own choice to not only speak up for what they believe is right, but to go out of their way to help someone who needs it. What you seem to not be understanding is that the protestors are not creating this situation. It did not have to escalate, and certainly not as much as it did. What you’re doing is placing the blame on the victim who only wanted to exercise their rights-

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Anonymous #11 2w

Just stop already.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 2w

rather than the masked, poorly trained federal agents using excessive force. We did not create this issue. They did. And as citizens of our country, not only is it our right, but it’s our responsibility to speak out against that injustice.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 2w

It’s protestors’ fault that officers need to be masked. It’s protestors’ fault the officers couldn’t communicate effectively with each other. It’s protestors’ fault this guy felt he had to put himself in harms way. It’s protestors’ fault that local police weren’t present to help maintain order and do crowd control. It’s also these protestors’ fault that all of those undocumented migrants are there in the first place. You reap what you sow. It’s sad, but by no means surprising.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 2w

And wow, that’s a bizarre way to romanticize being responsible for your family’s death. Again, with time I am confident you will be able to see what really matters.

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Anonymous #11 2w

pretti was literally being beaten by 8 ice agents who them grabbed his legal weapon from his hip before blasting him with 9 rounds. Ur fucking sped.

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Anonymous #11 2w

Ok bot

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Anonymous #14 2w

bought by netenyahu himself

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Anonymous #19 2w

These ICE agents fucked up. Anyone who knows about escalation of force can see that they did not follow policy. ICE was never intended to do crowd control. The protestors put them in a position they are simply not equipped nor trained to handle. And go figure: it resulted in a tragedy. It will continue to result in tragedies. For absolutely nothing. I just don’t see the sense in that

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Anonymous #11 2w

95% of all the republicans I see on this app make emotional comments like this and don’t make a real point, what is going on

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Anonymous #20 2w

They’re bots

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Anonymous #14 2w

#14 you’ve said that like 10 times. You genuinely sound like AI lmao

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Anonymous #11 2w

considering the ice agents voluntarily went up to him your point again is moot. admit it youre too far deep. Idgaf who you root for ahat your administration is calling for will put us all in danger. imagine if the biden admin told covid protesters bringing guns to state capitals we’re enough for capital punishment. bc thats what they’re actively saying right now. not oh it was a sad case of poor mismanagement, but blatantly saying “you bring billboards to protest not guns”

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Anonymous #11 2w

as if we dont live in a country where u can find a gun on every street corner. if youre willing to sound like a 2014 gun control liberal in order to “own the libs” its time to wake tf up buddy.

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Anonymous #11 2w

You are legitimately sped

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Anonymous #19 2w

Man that’s barely readable. The DNC is putting people in danger by encouraging them to obstruct armed, unprepared federal agents. What is a “covid protestor”? Idk what you’re on champ

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Anonymous #19 2w

Y’all must have smoked up tonight, this shit is incoherent. What are we talking about lmao “Covid protestors” “Netanyahu” - you have Trump derangement brainrot

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Anonymous #10 2w

Kyle rottenhouse

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Anonymous #7 2w

Kyle Rittenhouse*

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Anonymous #11 2w

Brother at what point do you look around and go “damn I might be on the side of the rich, lying, pedophiles that want to keep the average Americans divided and down.”

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Anonymous #21 2w

Man idk. How man people will go without medical care he could have provided because he wanted to defend 100,000 undocumented immigrants in Minnesota? Seems silly

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Anonymous #11 2w

Someone’s projecting real hard

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Anonymous #11 1w

Late getting back to this but holy ratio buddy

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