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As a conservative I think we can have this future. Men, women, black, white asian, straight gay bi trans, democrat republican ect.. all getting along and not hating each other. Let’s work towards this futureWell sure it isn’t entirely one sided but it’s certainly not anywhere close to equal. America is undergoing a far right movement in government right now, not a far left one. Political violence has always been perpetrated by people on the right far more than those on the left and the rhetoric encouraging that begun on the right, often with the president himself.
When a government takes a turn towards far right authoritarianism/ extremism (attempting to control higher education, scientific institutions, censor artists, violate the constitution…etc) then people on the other side of things are gonna be encouraged to say some mean things online sometimes. Still, there’s no way to say there is equal extremism, in government or general society
i mean most conservatives attacking people are individual based, and it likely comes from mental illness and extremism. There’s extremists on both sides, like the guy who attacked pelosy’s husband i group with people like luigi mangione. Individuals, not representative. There are drastically more organized violent outbursts from the democratic party
Well mental illness aside, the guy who came at pelosi with a hammer did so because he was a conservative who had political beef with democrats and wanted to harm a democratic lawmaker. Luigi was someone who was vaguely left and had beef with major corporations and attacked a ceo of one.
Those examples aside, no, the majority of political violence is not found on the left, it is found on the right. That’s why I offered to find the study which analyzes all the instances of these types of crimes and found that the majority are committed by right wing extremists
I have no hate for normal republicans as a democrat. Trump is the one that is ripping everyone apart and it truly sucks. It’s not even politics sometimes it’s the morals people have and supporting trump is disgusting. I have friends that are trump supporters so I can put aside differences but that doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s disgusting.
Dude I mean think about the big picture of what you’re saying. The American hegemony is funding a genocide that is ending the lives of tens of thousands of people (mostly women and children) and the American government wont listen to the citizens who want that to stop, so protests are had and some bad actors cause property damage. You really think the property damage at the hands of rogue actors is the big issue here?
absolutely, I’m making a point about how many of the calls for bipartisan unity are misguided when the current republican stance is so directly intolerant, nationalist, fascist, and authoritarian. In many contexts it feels like people are arguing that bipartisanship is a necessity of the legislature, but when the policies the GOP wants to enact are “disenfranchise millions of women across the country and consolidate power over elections on a level never before seen” I don’t want bipartisanship.
I would say this is revisionist but I think that people are just so used to how toxic and divisive things have been the past 15 years that the 90s seem harmonious by comparison. Gingrich was an absolute menace that spun a lot of divisive rhetoric in that era that we’re dealing with the legacy of, we had race riots in multiple cities, the OJ trial, Waco and the OKC bombing… 9/11 at least united most of us, even if that didn’t include Arabs/Muslims and largely shifted to being at their expense.
Yep, definitely had bad outcomes overall, but for a little while there as someone who isn’t Arab it did feel like racial tensions, which were very present prior to that, kind of faded into the background and were forgotten about. Of course I’ve had Arab/Persian/Indian friends whose post-9/11 experience was completely different, I can only speak to how it felt for me as a Jewish kid in an area that was basically half black and half white.
Yea the bipartisanship didn’t last more than a few months, but the lessened racial tensions between black and white seemed to mostly continue until Obama started gaining steam and a lot of these boomer McCain voters came out of the woodwork with the “We can’t trust him” “He’s an Arab” bullshit. It’s not an excuse for the rise of Islamophobia and I’m not saying my perception of the aughts is accurate, or if it is that it’s a worthwhile trade off, just talking about how I remember things being.