Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

What’s a corrupt thing democrats did?

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Anonymous #4 4w

This is objectively true. This is why no matter who won in 2024 we would be arming and funding Israel as a genocide occurs. Democrats just act like they’ll do something about it, same for most issues that people care about including healthcare, fossil fuels, the economy more broadly, etc.

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Anonymous #8 4w

It’s ok to admit you don’t remember how dire COVID was

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Anonymous #5 4w

Neither political party did anything to stop it though it was the scientists getting the vaccine out

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Anonymous #7 4w

45M people have access to healthcare because of Obamacare but go off ig

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Anonymous #8 4w

The child tax credit,the chips act that increase manufacturing jobs, the infrastructure bill, the Covid stimulus, how America came out of Covid better than every other economy, passing the first gun safety law in 30 years, None of that helped anyone?

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Anonymous #8 4w

And who do you think made sure the states didn’t have to fend for themselves when purchasing vaccines like they did for ventilators and PPE? Again, you obviously don’t remember. It’s ok to admit that

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Snubbing of Bernie in democratic primaries and handing it to Hillary, Ukraine money corruption, aipac donations. Both sides do terrible corrupt and evil things.. you just have to look at both sides with judgement and stop “choosing” a side and thinking they can’t do any wrong

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Anonymous #9 4w

What Ukraine money corruption?

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Anonymous #9 4w

Ukraine money corruption is crazy. The people snubbed Bernie he lost the popular vote in the primary. I think disliking lobbying is fine I agree. Idk where you’re getting me saying they can do nothing wrong, I just think the criticisms of democrats is always lackluster and just kill any real political action.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Girl no one thinks or says that dems can’t do any wrong, obviously they can and do (and need to be called out and held accountable when that is the case), BUT the right is literally worse so yeah some of us are gonna stay CHOOSING to side with dems cause look around

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Yeah I think that’s bad. I feel like corruption is usually meant to mean something illegal. If we’re including unethical behavior in the definition I would agree.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

But just bc I always have to say this I’m not accusing anyone of being anything. It’s nothing compared to the current corruption on the right. The Trump crypto schemes, the using Ukraine aid to get blackmail on Joe Biden, using things like poly market and insider trading to profit off the office, using executive orders to punish law firms that did legal work against Trump, sending the fcc after speech he doesn’t like, using his office to make people settle in civil cases.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

The selling of pardons, the private jet, the private funding of the ballroom that’s questionably unethical, The Trump hotel where leaders go to spend their money to bribe him, the business dealing he does around the world while he’s president. it’s an incomprehensible amount of corruption.

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Anonymous #16 4w

As someone coming from a family where parents and siblings and relatives all of whom I love and cherish, had voted that way, I don’t like that people who don’t know anything about those I’ve known all my life would call them those things as if they knew more about them than I.

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Anonymous #15 4w

To some degree yeah. But most of the conservatives I’ve spoken with who insist they aren’t MAGA have a tendency to actually agree with and defend those views and policies tooth and nail. Not to say there aren’t some out there who don’t suck, I’m just saying in my personal experience they seem to fall back on the same bigoted shit as MAGA does

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Nah the media and Democratic Party smeered Bernie with bad press and a bad view of him as a politician. It is ultimately up to the people but the democrats in power did do what they could to suppress him

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Anonymous #15 4w

Most republicans ARE MAGA bestie

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Anonymous #4 4w

Quick: which side put a billionaire and his teenage interns in charge of firing like 1/3 of the government so they coup replace it with privatized alternatives run by other billionaires???

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

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Anonymous #10 4w

they voted to take away my rights. fuck them

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Fraud in MN? You’d be stupid to say that not one person in office in MN had no clue about an estimated 10+ billion dollar fraud case

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Anonymous #26 4w

Alright what’s each of my family member’s names and addresses since you seem to know everything about them fucker

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Anonymous #10 4w

Doesn’t change the fact that they did vote to take away rights

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Anonymous #16 4w

When you say democrats are doing this like actual politicians or just people online? I’ve never heard any politician call all republicans Nazis.

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Ah yes the ultra rare neo liberal who buys ownership stakes in private companies.

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Anonymous #27 4w

They did have clue why do you think it was prosecuted by the Biden admin?

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Bros having an episode.

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Anonymous #27 4w

Genuine question, if you care about fraud, then surely you are upset with president Trump bailing out disgraced representative George Santos and a corporation (Which has NEVER been done before) BitMex…. Are do you only care about fraud if it somehow proves your talking points

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Anonymous OP 4w

wait they did WHAT for BitMEX??? 💀💀💀 that place was shady as fuck

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Anonymous #27 4w

Do you know how much $10B is? That’s an ABSURD amount. I think they’ve only charged people for $250M

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

That’s kind of what it’s all about actually

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Neoliberalism? State ownership in private companies? 💀💀💀

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Bro do you know anything about anything you ever talk about?

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Anonymous #28 4w

(Don’t mind the quote tweet lol) There’s an interesting split around 2003-2004

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Oh lol I get it, I’m saying his admin (the government) is buying shares.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

But you should know that context regardless.

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Anonymous #10 4w

irrelevant and don’t care. if they voted for trump they voted to take away my rights. fuck. them.

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Anonymous #10 4w

You’re allowed to love your family and have complicated feelings about them. Other people are allowed to call them Nazi sympathizers when they vote for fascist politicians who are endorsed by and employ actual neonazis.

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Anonymous #21 4w

Telling this individual that his family are Nazis because they voted for trump is actually everything wrong with politics right now in our country. Using the term nazi is such a played out hyperbole or someone who has little understanding of the Nazi regime. The name calling and assuming voting the opposite political party are the same ones opposing all your values is also exaggerated. Social media divides us and fuels hatred

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Anonymous #23 4w

Insane thing to say when we are enacting policies like deporting people to random countries and internment camps without due process, had a government purge conducted by a guy who did a Nazi salute and endorsed a neonazi party in Germany, and have a paramilitary police force shooting people in the face and going door to door kidnapping minorities from their without warrants but go off I guess. Like deadass these are the same policies they enacted in Nazi germany, we’re just in the early part of

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Anonymous #21 4w

It’s completely legitimate to call somebody who votes for fascist policies a fascist and to call people who are, I cannot emphasize this enough, ENDORSED BY SELF IDENTIFIED NEONAZIS Nazi sympathizers.

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Anonymous #23 4w

You think people are calling ice Nazis because they oppose illegal immigration. Not the fact they sent people to prison camps in El Salvador without a trial?

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Anonymous #21 4w

Apparently it’s insane to want Americans to find common ground instead of the constant name calling each other Nazi’s. I don’t condone the tactics of ice but opposing illegal immigration isn’t the same as someone who started a world war with intent to eradicate an entire Religion/race. If you truly believe the two are equivalent, then you should move to another country that aligns with your values.

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Anonymous #23 4w

Why is it that we’re expected to coddle these mouth-foaming fascist maniacs? They sure as shit wouldn’t compromise the other way

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Anonymous #23 4w

It’s not name calling to point out obvious and true historical parallels. I’m not going to coddle people just because it makes them sad to be told they voted for a fascist lmfao. Ur so cooked

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Anonymous #23 4w

Also it’s so bad-faith of you to frame it as just “opposing illegal immigration.” They said on election the election trail that immigrants are “animals,” “poisoning the blood of our country,” “terrorists,” lied about refugees eating cats, etc. guess what Nazis were saying about the people they killed? That’s not even mentioning the heinous shit about minorities, women, and queer people. Or the literal instruction manual they released for a christofascist takeover.

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Anonymous #21 4w

This isn’t a disagreement about bureaucracy or minute details of policy. It’s open fascism. And the solution is not both-sidesing it or downplaying it so people who voted for fascists dont have to think about the consequences of their own actions. If they change their mind and take responsibility, god bless them, I know people who did. But I’m never going to use kid gloves to spare their feelings.

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Anonymous #21 4w

Can we talk about this “heritage American” stuff 🥀

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Anonymous #21 4w

No one is asking for coddling, I’m pointing out it’s not productive to have such a divided country. Parallel and equivalence are not the same. This started with someone showing vulnerability in the fact his family might be conservative but don’t hold evil Nazi values and was followed by multiple people calling them Nazis that took their rights away. It’s not productive to anyone

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Anonymous #5 4w

BRO LITERALLY ‼️‼️‼️It’s just Volksdeutche rebranded

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Anonymous #23 4w

If you vote for a person openly espousing evil Nazi values because you thought it was a fair trade off for cheaper eggs you on some level had evil Nazi values idk what to tell you.

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Anonymous #21 4w

So you can prove that’s why my family voted as they did? Oh. Do go in depth, I would love to hear you make even one connection between your assumptions and someone you don’t even know exists.

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Anonymous #10 4w

i don’t care why they voted for trump. whether they voted for him to do evil shit or said evil shit was simply not a dealbreaker. the cause and effect are the same either way - voting for trump and taking away my rights. if taking away people’s rights is not a dealbreaker for them, then fuck them

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Anonymous #26 4w

again you assume there’s only a select reason for anything lol. You keep framing it how you want it. I’ll leave you alone, but this is both disappointing and very telling

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Anonymous #10 3w

“I’ll leave you alone” = “I don’t have a valid response” lol

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Anonymous #26 3w

Can’t argue with the unreasonable

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Anonymous #26 3w

This is what I’m saying!! There is no version of voting for Trump that is not, at its most generously interpreted, saying that you think human rights are an acceptable trade off. In my eyes there’s not really much difference between actively supporting stripping people of rights and enacting fascist policy and deciding to vote for somebody even tho they are a fascist because you think economic change is worth it.

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Anonymous #10 3w

So…can I ask why they voted for him? Which of his policies or campaign promises appealed to them?

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Anonymous #21 3w

Maybe they’re just “nothing ever happens” types that didn’t think he’d follow Project 2025 and Congress would actually have a spine

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Anonymous #5 3w

Probably low taxes. I don’t ask relatives those kinds of questions because I’m not obsessed with politics.

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Anonymous #10 3w

And knowing them, better than you ever will, they wouldn’t have any ill-intentions whatsoever for whatever reason they voted

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Anonymous #10 3w

So low taxes is more important to them than not electing a rapist who is running of a platform of mass deportations and human rights violations, got it.

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Anonymous #21 3w

You could ask them where they come from instead of being a jackass, maybe you’re not interested

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Anonymous #10 3w

Cmon guys :( Enthusiastically voting from Trump doesn’t make you a bad person :( They just wanted lower taxes brooo what else were they supposed to do :(

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

I’m only going to say this once. In the case that you think something will be good for society and country, if you vote such that you believe this candidate will do those things, even if they don’t meet your exact criteria, you can make a poor choice ultimately due to the obvious being the candidate isn’t you, your character is not touched. I will not speak for people whom I have not asked the question of why, and neither should you. What I am doing is called considerate critical thinking.

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Anonymous #10 3w

Che had ur fam clocked in 1954

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

Illogical considering you don’t know them. I know people are just numbers on a study to you but please try to imagine human beings. Since you so ambiguously made that claim it’s right for you to say that you would be among the working class in this study.

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Anonymous #10 3w

Ok, low taxes was my guess. I get it, but I feel concerned that they didn’t seem to consider what his policies would do to their fellow Americans

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Anonymous #5 3w

When most people think they are right, they don’t tend to doubt a thing. Of course I could never articulate on the behalf of someone else, but considering I know these people in the familial sense to know that most of them are genuinely good people.

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Anonymous #10 3w

I think what’s being missed in this convo on both sides is that good people can do morally wrong things. I’m sure your family isn’t a bunch of Nazis but their vote was still harmful and they did it willingly.

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Anonymous #10 3w

My relatives are the same way a lot of them voted red but I think they’re morally responsible for that choice not that they’re malicious people.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3w

Wow someone else rational on here, what a nice surprise

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Anonymous #23 3w

Fr I feel like it shouldn’t have taken multiple days for that to be said.

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