What is your point here?

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Very helpful thank you

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Not so fun fact: #1 sent me this dm. He rapes kids.

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Anonymous #5 2w

What a werid thing to say

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Anonymous #9 2w

Wow Zohran sounds awesome!

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Anonymous #9 2w

Horrible for America but he’s making it work in New York? The only people who hate socialism are the rich because it forces them to pay their fair share of taxes. 😭😂 The rich have gaslit you into thinking taxing the POOR more than you tax the WEALTHY is a good thing😭😂😂

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Anonymous #8 2w

Dead ass this person is fucking stupid😂😂😂🤣🤣 honestly if I had a dunce cap, I’d give it to him because what is this guy talking about?🤣

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Anonymous #10 2w

You.

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Anonymous #10 2w

It’s crazy how the people who would actually benefit from socialism are the ones speaking against it. Just goes to show that they have no clue what socialism is or how it works. The 1% don’t even gotta fight against socialism cause they tricked the poor people into doing it for them

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if you think the muslim religion is bad, you should find out what the christian god has done 😰

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The way zhoran is doing it isn’t correct? I wanna see if you know what you’re talking about. Please tell me how is Zohran taxing the wealthy in New York, and how is it a bad thing. Because I’ve read his proposal front to back and it’s fair and doable. Please also include how you would do it better since you said you support taxing the rich

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Every non Nordic socialist country gets raped by America. Saying socialist countries suck because their socialist is like saying a trackstar who got shot in the spine can’t win a race because he doesn’t know how to run. Nah dip they get shot in the knees anytime they try to advance.

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Anonymous #15 2w

popped ult IMMEDIATELY there has GOT to be a better word than rape for this 😭

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Anonymous #15 2w

Example: America blockading Cuba to oblivion for 60+ years

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Anonymous #14 2w

I think it’s an understatement for the atrocities the government commits abroad.

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Anonymous #15 2w

i mean I totally agree with you we have done incredibly terrible things to these regimes, but I think using the word rape is a bit distasteful for people who have experienced that on a personal level is all

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Anonymous #15 2w

also in all honesty it’s immensely disingenuous to say that Nordic countries are socialist (for 9, not you) what is commonly described as “socialism” in terms of existing countries, is most often a social democracy (which is not socialism, but capitalism with heavy regulation in favor of social stability) for example, there are no socialist nations within the EU, and the few that could be described as socialist (in the most fundamental sense of working to deconstruct capitalism towards

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Anonymous #16 2w

an anti-capitalist society) are countries like Cuba in my personal opinion. that’s without even unpacking the delusional hate that some people in these comments have displayed for zohran it just goes to show that they don’t even know what they’re mad about

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Anonymous #16 2w

The socialism in the context of this discussion (which is the socialism that zorhan is in favor of) is closer to Nordic socialism than any other socialist country you are telling us to go to.

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Anonymous #15 2w

ah I said, Nordic “socialism” is not socialism, it is most closely described as a social democracy; unless you want to claim that Nordic countries are working to deconstruct capitalism, which I think we both know is not true.

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Anonymous #16 2w

tldr: socialism ≠ social democracy a democratic socialist is a socialist, but a social democrat is not, if that makes sense. The terms are very similar so they commonly get conflated.

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Anonymous #15 2w

For clarification I agree, I think we get bogged down in labels rather than actually looking at what these people are advocating for. Also Socialism is an economic policy style not a stance on democracy vs authoritarianism. You can be a capitalist and be authoritarian ( Mussolini, hitler) and a Socialist for democracy

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Anonymous #15 2w

Hitler was not a socialist, this is why rhetoric is important. the nazi party specifically, and per their own admission, co-opted the terminology of socialism in order to manipulate the working class during their attempts at consolidating power. I think the reasoning for why every non-Nordic country is attacked by America when attempting to implement socialism is because many actually do try to deconstruct capitalism, aka truly implement socialism; whilst as I stated, Nordic countries do not

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Anonymous #16 2w

Nordic countries do not implement socialism, they implement social democracy (a sub form of capitalism focused on regulation in favor of society, stability, and social safety nets) the fundamental issue here is pro-capitalist vs anti-capitalist. most people describe pro-capitalist social democracies as socialism when that isn’t accurate, but any true socialist nations attempting to deconstruct capitalism indeed meets the fate you described above (goddamned US imperialism)

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Anonymous #15 2w

ahh wait, I just realized I might’ve misinterpreted your reference of the nazi party, and I apologize if I did so!!

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Anonymous #16 2w

For the median voter and in the context of this discussion that doesn’t really matter. What Zohran is advocating is closer to Nordic socialism than democracy than socialism. I also don’t think things can be reduced to just pro vs anti capitalist without dumbing down the conversation.

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Anonymous #15 2w

That is socialism as it is used colloquially.

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Anonymous #16 2w

You are good I understood what you were trying to get across.

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Anonymous #15 2w

With all due respect, that is what the ideology is. Fundamentally, it is an anticapitalist ideology, despite it being co-opted by capitalists in favor of reform. I’d argue that the median voter also suffers from the long-lasting Cold War propaganda (that we still use till this day) and don’t actually have a true understanding of the terms “socialism” or “communism”, which makes these convos much harder to have imo

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Anonymous #16 2w

Sure, Nordic countries are “socialist” in the perspective of median voters, but that isn’t because they’re truly and materially socialist nations, it’s because we have successfully conditioned the masses on the topic of these anti-capitalist ideologies. it’s why most Americans don’t even know the term “social democracy”, we don’t teach accurate political theory, nor history, in our public schools (which is entirely intentional).

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Anonymous #15 2w

and I wasn’t trying to say that all socialist and communist ideology is only anti-capitalist, but more so meant to imply that being anti-capitalist is a fundamental backbone of those ideologies Similarly to how monarchies have a fundamental backbone of a royal class, without that key distinction it doesn’t truly align as much under that terminology yk?

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Anonymous #18 2w

I said pick, but I meant trust. Because obviously he can’t run for president 😒

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Anonymous #14 2w

Is it not the same god

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Anonymous #22 2w

No I don’t remember that at all actually

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Anonymous #19 2w

oh my goodness gracious people here are NOT talking about loving pets. wow. how on earth did the conversation go this wrong

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Anonymous #20 2w

Wrong. It IS the same god they just choose not to agree. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are ALL Abrahamic religions. All of them recognize the other’s prophets, all of them see Abraham as the Patriarch. The only real differences are how they view Jesus. Jewish people believe their savior has yet to come and Jesus was just another prophet. Muslim people believe Muhammad was their savior (not divine) and Jesus was just a Prophet. Christian people believe Jesu was their savior and the Son of God.

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Anonymous #22 2w

Never seen that before, very weird of her if true but also I’m not really sure what I’m looking at. Don’t act like just cause you’ve seen something everyone has

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Anonymous #22 2w

Nothing to say now?

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

Never seen it before but two weeks ago it was all over news outlets everywhere. It is in fact real if you genuinely didn’t see it then you’re not as politically aware as you think you are.

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Anonymous #16 2w

We have clear ideas of what both Socialism and Communism are, and they have been around since the beginning. Socialism: An economic system where the government or community controls major resources and services so wealth is shared more equally and basic needs are met. Communism: A political and economic system where all property is collectively owned and social classes are eliminated, with resources distributed based on need.

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Anonymous #24 2w

In layman’s terms: In socialism, everything is owned by the governing entity, and there is almost no private property. In communism, everything is owned by everyone and there is no private property.

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Anonymous #22 2w

“Nothing to say now?” gtfo corny assss 😭😭😭

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

Not as corny as supporting a racist babe

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Anonymous #22 2w

I just looked this up, 2 seconds of google shows she was 15 when she posted it and has taken accountability. Not that there’s a statute of limitations on racism but I hope she’s changed and grown since then

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Anonymous #24 2w

They both look great on paper, but in application, they don’t work. We aren’t a society of ants. We are free thinkers that will rebel against anything they don’t agree with. It’s human nature. It’s why things like the Renaissance and the Enlightenment happened. Revolutions and wars. When we truly want something, we will work to get it. Our own human nature and instinct is anti-socialist and anti-communist.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

Yea when I was 15 I knew not to be racist and so do 99% of people so not an excuse.

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Anonymous #22 2w

Read the second part of my comment

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

Like holy shit 😭

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

If she hasn’t changed then she’s scum and I hate her, but hopefully she has

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

People tend not to change ideologies like that, like holy shit.

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Anonymous #22 2w

That’s a very pessimistic view on people, I grew up in a conservative town but have seen people change real time. Agree to disagree on that front I guess

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

Clearly you and I have very different life experiences tho so I’m not gonna act like I know better, I always hope people can learn to deconstruct their biases tho

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

Yea no, you’re so uneducated to post a picture of him and then barely know anything about him or his wife as people. You are completely morally corrupted if you support him as a politician.

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Anonymous #22 2w

I feel like that’s kind of a leap

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Anonymous #22 2w

A lot of ppl said stupid shit on the Internet at age 15.

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Anonymous #3 2w

Like that was 13 years ago

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Anonymous #3 2w

If you think racism is stupid then you have a problem. Because if any white politicians wife said that it would be wraps, or if a black politicians wife said something xenophobic it would be over for their career.

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Anonymous #22 2w

“People tend not to change” Source: “Trust me bro”

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Anonymous #22 2w

First of all lmfao I’m black. I’m just saying that teenagers tend to not understand the gravity of what they post.

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Anonymous #22 2w

Second of all, it’s not like she posted it while she was a politician or while she was connected to one. Once again, she was 15.

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Anonymous #22 2w

Teenage years are some of the most formative too, I’m definitely not the same person I was when I was 15 and I’d venture to say that goes for most people. Over time people grow and learn from their mistakes and change.

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Anonymous #3 2w

So every teenager who says the n word should get a free pass? Or just her because you like her husband?

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Anonymous #22 2w

I think people who change and grow into better versions of themselves over time shouldn’t have to have something they said 13 years ago when they were a child held over their head.

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Anonymous #22 2w

wait, since you’re this pressed about Zohran (acting as if he said it), you vocally oppose nearly all US politicians then right? if the premise is racism, then we gotta look at the politicians who are personally racist as fuck tbh, which is why I’m confused as to why you’re fixating on mamdani…

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Anonymous #16 2w

surely you’re not someone who supports the Republican Party while crying wolf about others regarding the issues you ignore your own party being guilty of, right?

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Anonymous #16 2w

Nope I do not support most politicians or the Republican Party. I don’t support racists or people who defend them.

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Anonymous #26 2w

Right and where is the free transportation??

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Anonymous #22 2w

A: Literally no one said B: She’s literally apologized and taken accountability for her mistakes which is what people should expect when other people make mistakes C: She isn’t the mayor D: I wonder what regrets you have in your life, if that is the extent of the skeletons in her closet and she has changed then I think she’s fine.

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 2w

People cry for change then get upset at something that happened YEARS ago, even after the person has changed… how far humanity has come.

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Anonymous #27 2w

(This is not meant to sound hateful to immigrants I’m sorry if it does…)

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Anonymous #24 2w

The crux of their argument relies on the idea that she hasn’t changed anyways which no one here is going to truly know unless she does something bad to show she hasn’t. It’s such a useless conversation and masquerades as progressive when progressivism relies on rehabilitation and people changing at its core.

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Anonymous #5 2w

DONALD FUCKING TRUMP IS A PEDOPHILE- nope no…I won’t be rage baited…

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Anonymous #32 2w

I mean aren’t most politicians

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