That's not what anyone said. I can't see a single comment that says "babies are not worthy of life" so don't come up here making lazy ass straw men to argue with

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The "baby" is an underdeveloped system of cells that cannot sustain itself without the mother. It's not a baby. Babies are born.

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We are made of light creating interference patterns in the energy states of quantum fields. We are made of the same stuff as stars. You cannot use that to nullify actual reasoning with actual basis. If the life cannot exist biologically without the mother the mother inherently takes precedent, but that would mean rejecting patriarchy and you bitches ain't ready for that

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Not a child. A system of cells that cannot function without its mother’s body

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That’s not how biology works.

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So you would define a human as a system of cells? There is nothing more to us that makes us human??

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So there is no difference between you and a zygote or a fetus?

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At what stage did you stop developing?

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So when you turn 25 you just come to a standstill and remain in a fixed state?

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Does time just stop when you turn 25?

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That’s not what I asked

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“fully developed” is an oxymoron. I know it’s subtle, but you can’t deny that when you realize.

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Do your experiences not change you? Do you not grow or develop from them?

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There is no such thing as fully developed. You can always develop more

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This has never been an issue of determining value. That value is inherent. It’s a matter of weighing the value.

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There is no reason why the literal creator of life should not recognized for being inherently precedent. The idea that a mother cannot choose whether to create life itself is a violation of nature. The universe is eternally creating itself. In that sense the universe itself is feminine.

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IT IS NOT A CHILD

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92.8% of abortions happen before 13 weeks, 6.1% between 14 and 20 weeks, and 1.1% happen after 21 weeks. If we zoom in even further, 78.6% occur at 9 weeks or earlier with 40.2% happening within the first few weeks. That is far before anything remotely close to a child has even been created.

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No dude if reality is constantly developing that means timing is everything

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Let me remind you AGAIN: This “life” you’re talking about cannot sustain itself. Without the mother there is no life.

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There is no consciousness yet. The soul is not inhabiting the body yet. Just a bunch of cells waiting for an outcome.

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Change in time very much does mean change in value. I would have not even remotely as much practical value to humanity if I were even my child self. My flesh has zero value until my soul is inhabiting it

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They ALL determine value.

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THEY ARE ALL FACTORS OF THE EQUATION AND YOU AREN’T EVEN WILLING TO DO THE MATH

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Reality is entirely created. WE chose value. If a mother has chosen that bringing life into the world is not valuable in a given moment, she is right.

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There are so many reasons to accept this and you aren’t willing to even listen to any of them. This is on you. I’ve said everything there is to say and you’re still stuck so maybe now is not the time. Good luck to you in life.

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You clearly don’t understand the concept of free will as foundational.

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That’s not what it comes down to at all. I’m glad to know you weren’t hearing me at all. Makes me feel a lot better about disengaging. I hope you learn to grow.

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It’s really not though. Value has magnitude. Your logic is saying the fetus has value so it must be the most valuable as though the mother’s life does not also have value. All life has inherent value. That means anytime some sacrifice is inevitable, it must be done intentionally. I hope you can grow to understand this.

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