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Btw this is what they mean when someone says gender is a social construct 40ish years ago this was considered masculine
338 upvotes, 18 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in US Politics. "Btw this is what they mean when someone says gender is a social construct 40ish years ago this was considered masculine"
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Anonymous 4w

Then Reagan happened 😔 (serious about this, his pushing of AIDS as a gay disease and lack of action pushed straight fashion away from how gay ppl would dress although they dressed similar)

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Anonymous 4w

We used to be a real country. Bring back slutty crop tops on men

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Anonymous 4w

The 80’s were such an interesting time like how was everybody extremely gay AND homophobic like what 😭

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Anonymous 4w

Men in crop tops is hot idc what anyone says

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Anonymous 4w

Mfs will listen to Motley Crue and be like “men shouldn’t wear makeup!” lmfao

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Anonymous 4w

The belly hair in a crop top 😝😝

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Anonymous 4w

That’s not gender itself though, that’s just gender norms/roles/whatever

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Anonymous 4w

Is this Gender or just fashion?

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Anonymous 4w

Sleep away camp is top tier with some of the best quotes

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Anonymous 4w

It is

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Anonymous 4w

My father and mother lived through the 70s & 80s as teenagers and young adults. Both of them say this was not considered masculine.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

It was. Even Rocky and Apollo Creed wore crop tops. In the 80s, nobody wondered if most incredibly feminine-presenting figures like rockstars were gay or straight. Like you had to be David Bowie levels of exotic to get the critics asking questions. This was peak masculinity right here. Everyone knew he fucked

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

At celebrity levels like that yes. People wore flashy clothes to show off. The average everyday person didn’t wear stuff like that and find it masculine. My dad specifically styled his hair like Freddy Mercury, but his didn’t go around wearing the same clothes that Freddy did on stage. The idea of ‘feminine’ and ‘masculine’ drastically changed in the 20s and 30s and hasn’t changed much since. There were still people who thought David Bowie dressed like a girl.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

They didn’t care bc people like the music. Things have changed bc people care less about the actual work and more about political ideologies.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

You are absolutely right that they didn’t care who was gay or straight bc it didn’t matter. Who you slept with stayed in the bedroom for the most part. Regan’s push for “AIDs Awareness” did start to draw a political line between it all. The general public became scared of a disease and subsequently gay people as a whole. They believed just being near one could cause them to contract the disease. This didn’t change how people dressed, it just cause a political divide.

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Anonymous replying to -> evil_sheep 4w

Fashion is contingent on gender norms…wearing this was seen as acceptable because it fit the times idea of masculinity

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Doesn’t fashion happen first followed by gender norms? Gotta have the egg before the chicken.

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Anonymous replying to -> evil_sheep 4w

fashion and gender inform eachother imo. it's not one way or the other. kinda like the MTV effect

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