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liberals and leftists when they realize they need to play nice with independents if they want to win in 2028
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Anonymous 20w

Maybe we would like y’all more if you stopped doing dumb shit

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

what good points do republicans/MAGA make

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

trump accounts, market efficiency, good returns for retirement funds cause by the rising stock market

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

i’m not maga nor am i republican but if there was no appeal it wouldn’t be a question. there’s obviously some appeal of republican values or policies otherwise we wouldn’t have a republican party

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

“Market efficiency” oh so we are just lying now ok

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

Bigotry. The appeal you are looking for is racism and misogyny.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

…we’re not lying. there’s never been a boom in the tech industry as large as the one we’ve seen recently.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

no the appeal is people seeing the returns on their accounts go up

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

I think looking just by overall stats, you’re wrong but you’re entitled to the opinion

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

depends on what stats you’re looking at. i can acknowledge the fact that high inflation has lowered the purchasing power of the average consumer, but in the long run returns on people’s retirement will be up

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w
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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

have fun winning in 2028 speaking to people like this

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

Maybe if you’re looking only at retirement but in terms of market strength, “trump accounts” I’m not really even sure what that means, I think generally they’ve stayed average/worse than past democratic presidents

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

annual change for who? can you be more specific with the information you’re giving me? i’m not doubting it but the chart has no context and is like to know who and what it’s referring to

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

trump accounts give $1000 towards every child born during the administration. the money will grow through their lifetime. this is probably the one thing democrats will recognize as beneficial

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

“Don’t get mad at me for doing the electoral equivalent of shitting in my hand and rubbing it on the wall or I’ll do it again” I’ll be nice to y’all again. I’ll accept y’all and take you in. But you have to stop rubbing shit everywhere first. I will not be nice to you upon the threat of continued shit rubbing.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

The Harris campaign offered a $5000 aid for babies born to my knowledge. With the rising costs and de-regulation of company products I imagine things like this would benefit if the more social policies didnt interfere with them.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

It’s the annual increase in jobs under each president, excluding farm workers.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

sure. i voted for Kamala Harris in 2024, and i’m upset to this day she didn’t win. i much preferred her to trump. i do believe though that the trump accounts are beneficial. here’s my context: i’m young and pretty well invested in the stock market (since i’m young most of my money is there) and during the trump administration i’ve seen my money grow substantially. i want to be able to own a home one day and this seems to be the most beneficial way of getting money to do it. what would you tell

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

someone in my situation that would make them want to vote blue and potentially stall the growth of my money

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

One good thing doesn’t outweigh the permanent massive damage from his other policies

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

I think really the conversation is about why you’re voting and who you’re voting for. I also want to own a home but I much more care about the idea that people’s lives are less likely to be impacted by the government in terms of social policies, civil rights issues, etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

sure okay. i get that. more unemployment and more inflation for sure. not good indicators for sure. but i was talking about the increase in people’s pension funds and retirement account, not unemployment or inflation. to be completely honest, unemployment is a massive concern for me personally as an economic indicator. i’m employed with a few jobs while o pay my tuition for school. i understand why it matters, i do, but it’s just not very relevant to my life currently. inflation on the other

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

hand is where i would’ve went with this. that’s much more relevant to the average american who’s employed either full time or part tkme

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

100%. i’m also not a trump supporter might i add. however, i think we can agree the average republican candidate isn’t donald trump. he’s off the walls and senile. we agree there.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

i get that. but at the same time i have to weigh that with my future and what i’ll be able to provide for my family. i am a firm believer in equality for all, but how can i weigh that against having a home or a family one day?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

all independents want from democrats is the respect to hear our concerns with the democratic party without being called every name in the book. the reason why you all think that’s independents are secretly right wing is because while you guys scream and curse at us, they listen. i say this from a strategic standpoint, if you want independents to vote blue in 2028, you need to learn how to listen to the concerns of independents without expressing intense anger. we agree with you on the things

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

that are important to you. i personally am very pro choice, and am for women’s rights, gay rights, trans rights, POC rights, etc. in fact i say this as a gay woman. we’re in agreement on humanitarian stuff but you lose us when you get angry at us for exploring other economic policies.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

I’m one of the groups that’s actively being called radical and “terroristic” by the federal government. Not for ideological reasons but because of the category of person I fall into. And as the Trump admin has continued, I’ve had to skip college for a day because ICE was stopping people who looked like me, or ICE was getting called on people in my classes. I think that happening to me, has cemented that in order to think about the future, your present should be secured.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

i get this. i’m latin american and my parents are immigrants. what trump has done with ICE is too far, we agree. but i also think that he has one of the most radical immigration policies out of the entire republican party. i feel your pain as someone who’s loved in fear, im not a trump fan. i’ve never been a trump fan because of how genuinely terrible i think he is. in all ways. there’s a big difference between donald trump and someone like thomas massie though. i think that’s really important

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

If you cared about minorities or seemingly your own self-preservation you wouldn’t be using “we will let the fascists get elected” as a threat. Maybe you should have some frickin priorities especially considering the dem party is very economically centrist.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

I want to be clear I’m only telling you that as a reason for why I think social policies hold more impact than general economic policies. Not because I think you’re bigoted

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

i’m not threatening to vote for a facist. i’m going to vote for the candidate that best matches my personal beliefs. i didn’t vote for trump nor did i even consider it. there are republicans who aren’t facist, those are the ones i would consider voting for.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

I’m not even a dem loyalist. I’d prefer a more left wing option. I’d be voting against the Dems if I had a more left leaning choice. But I at least have my priorities straight

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

sure, but that’s only true for some people. social policies aren’t always super applicable to people, so why would i vote on an issue that doesn’t affect me directly. i don’t mean to sound inconsiderate, but if im not impacted by an issue why would i make it a priority when voting

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

Well those republicans are called RINOs and are currently being expelled from the party :/ It ain’t the Mitt Romney party anymore

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

i can see that. again i’m an independent, not republican. that means that if the republican party is full of people i don’t agree with, im voting blue. if there’s a republican candidate who aligns themselves with what i do, id be drawn to voting for them. i’m not a fan of the current administration at all. trump is senile, vance is a snake, hegseth and patel have no clue what they’re doing, and before being fired bondi and noem were terrible at their jobs. id take whatever harris would’ve pulled

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

out of her ass over this. the only member of the trump admin who’s slightly tolerable is rubio. i was always going to vote blue in 2028, but i can’t speak for other independents. what i can say though is that if you want them on board, you need to listen to their concerns and address them instead of writing off independents as evil scum

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

Yeah that’s fine honestly. I really don’t mind what people votes for that much if it isn’t an existential threat to the lives of millions of people. But I don’t think the Republican Party is going back to that. Its platform has relied on racism for decades and it’s just become more explicit now.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20w

But I also don’t understand why you would like Republican economic policy unless you’re really rich. Their economic policy just kind of sucks

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

Again I think that speaks more so to the why and who you’re voting for. I’m not a cis woman, I’d prioritize abortion rights, just because I know the negative impact it can have

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