Anonymous #1 1w

Delusional

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Anonymous OP 1w

You’re delusional if you believe illegal immigrants should get anything from us. You can argue the rest.

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Anonymous #1 1w

You are anti American and would be among the crowd chanting for Ellis Island to be closed because we’re letting in too many Irish and Germans. This has always been a country of immigrants

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Anonymous #1 1w

You’re suffering from something within the DSM-5

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Anonymous OP 1w

You’re anti American if you’re for illegal immigration. Literally by definition. It’s a country of legal immigrants. People who have worked to be here the right way.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Lmao. I’m advocating for federal law to be withheld. It’s in the name, illegal immigrant. They aren’t supposed to be here they need to get out. You’re fucking over every other person in the history of this nation by letting people just walk through

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Anonymous #1 1w

Without looking it up, how much in taxes do illegal immigrants pay per year in taxes?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Every other person that’s came here legally, but also every legal citizen. Needed to put in that clarification

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Anonymous #1 1w

You think everyone who immigrated to America back then came through legally? What fairy tale world are you living in? They were saying the exact same things you are right now back then. We had politicians saying we needed to build a wall of brass around the country to keep illegals out in the 1700’s ffs

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Anonymous #1 1w

Women are not perceived as greater than men. This is indicated by child marriage, rape and abuse statistics, the fact that about a quarter of the government is female (instead of half) and the still existing wage gap.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I don’t know, but it’s a lot less than how much they would be paying if they were citizens.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m not saying that. I’m saying you’re fucking over people who are trying to come through legally now. Like people in my family

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Anonymous #1 1w

How much of the workforce is made up of illegal immigrants, without looking it up?

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m not sure, maybe 3 4 percent? Around there

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Anonymous #1 1w

Is it beneficial to americans to have economic success through tax funded programs like social security and low wages but high employment?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Another thing that was said back then too. You really just are recycling centuries old talking points If you want to stop illegal immigration, fix the immigration system. Jackbooted thugs don’t solve anything

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

You’re just going to ignore the blatant anti trans hate and proposed laws in recent years?

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

Delusional thinking. Every group I just listed is empirically less equal under the law and/or social norms

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Anonymous #2 1w

Like what exactly? There’s nothing a trans person can do that I can’t within reason? If you’re confused about your sexuality, you shouldn’t be in the military. If you’re confused about your sexuality you shouldn’t be able to adopt children. Someone with a mental illness shouldn’t be put in positions like that, it’s unsafe for them and those around them.

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

So by that logic do you think people with clinical depression shouldn’t be allowed to adopt?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Very much so? If someone is depressed and not in a right state of mind then adopting a child should very much be restricted? Not only do they have a risk at hurting themselves, but it could transfer over to the kid? What’s the argument you’re trying to make here??

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Anonymous OP 1w

Not at all. Under the law (of the us sorcfically) they aren’t. Socially, I would agree. Not everyone is going to agree with someone changing their sex, it’s not natural… Women aren’t restricted with anything, and abortion (which is murder) is not a right being restricted, it is quite literally the taking of another life. ILLEGAL immigrants are not equal under the law or socially, correct. (Hence the key word) however immigrants (legal ones) very much are,

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

I’m just seeing if it’s actually about mental illness because so many times people will say the don’t want trans people adopting only to be fine with someone who has GAD adopting for example

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

Being transgender is by definition not a mental illness. The DSM-5 does not recognize it as one, your feelings don’t change reality.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Well in my personally opinion it is. If someone is mentally unfit, there should be restrictions. Not only for their safety, but for others around them.

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

Buddy the state of Iowa has literally taken transgender people off of the list of people protected by the civil rights act. The only time this has happened in history. Transgender people in that state are objectively equal legally to black people under Jim Crow in the 50’s

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Anonymous #2 1w

Like you guys say, definitions change. The idea that you’re truly convinced that you’re something you’re not is on the same level as a mental illness. A majority of the time, this only comes about when children go through trauma, whether it be bullying, parental problems, etc. it is very much a disorder and needs to be treated as such.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Like legally it’s just objectively the case that trans people are discriminated against and that it’s encouraged by the Republican Party

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

It’s not just definitions. It’s science. It doesn’t constitute one medically or biologically. That’s also not true. I study biomedical engineering as a masters student with a minor in biology. Substantiate that claim with data if it’s true. I’ll wait.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’d Love to see your source for one, but I can almost bet money ik what actually happened. They’re no longer protected in the aspects of DEI under the civil rights act.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Not at all, your normal thinking person quite literally does not care. The right encourages the betterment of all people, mentors disorders hurt people

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

You’re literally on a phone but sure https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/05/us/iowa-trans-civil-rights-law

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Anonymous #2 1w

Please look up the definition of a mental illness, and compare it to the likes of gender disphoria. I’ll wait. And please make the science backing these claims exactly.

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

Show proof that being “transgender” is a mental disorder.

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

Your feelings aren’t proof. Try again, you made a claim. Back it up. Hurry.

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Anonymous #2 1w

These aren’t my opinions, they’re the opinions of a majority of thinking people. Look up the definition and think for yourself

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

Cisgender people can get gender dysphoria too fyi

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

That’s also not proof. If it’s true, this should be easy to do. Stop avoiding it and give me proof.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m telling you to think for yourself.. don’t take my word for it use those engineering thinking skills for just a second

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

You still haven’t provided proof to #2 💀

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Anonymous whatsright 1w

That’s also not proof! If you were able to prove me wrong, you would, but thanks for avoiding it cause it makes it easy to dismiss your delusions lol.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m not saying the immigration system is perfect, but that doesn’t mean people can just waltz in here. There needs to be an actual benefit to having more people here. We need a physical border. Having people walk in on foot is only making the cartel business get worse, more trafficked people, more rapes by the cartel, more drugs.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Who are you referring to when you say jackbooted thugs? Cause if you mean ICE, I disagree. There’s gotta be a punishment that come here illegally, and it’s illegals getting kicked out.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I think we need social security. I think it’s actually needed by people that aren’t able to work. People who are disabled, veterans, and people who genuinely are down trodden and need a hand. It should help those people. It should NOT help illegals, and it shouldn’t help people who are milking the system like families who have been on snap for generations.

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Anonymous #1 1w

There are benefits to having more people here. Immigrants tend to be more willing to do hard labor, contribute to the economy, and also add to our culture Additionally a wall won’t do shit because most people here illegally are here because they overstayed their visas. Not because they hopped the fence

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Anonymous #1 1w

Damn if ICE was just about punishing illegal immigrants then they wouldn’t be arresting journalists, students, peaceful protestors, and others who haven’t broken any immigration law

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Anonymous #1 1w

Social security can’t be given to illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants pay around 90billion total in taxes. Taxes that go to social programs only citizens qualify for. Get rid of them, you lose 90 billion dollars that goes to helping americans. You also lose 5% of ALL workers specifically those who work in construction, agriculture, and hospitality. You want farms to suffer due to lack of employment?

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Anonymous OP 1w

They don’t add to our culture. They don’t bring culture here that we don’t already have. All they do is migrate here, make their own cloistered areas, they don’t learn the language, and they don’t assimilate. You need to be an American to live here.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yeah, that ain’t happening. They’re doing shit to warrant getting arrested. I don’t trust that these people aren’t doing shit to warrant themselves getting arrested like you’re claiming. Maybe there’s a BERY SMALL amount of that happening. But it isn’t significant.

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Anonymous #2 1w

You don’t think that these people are stealing identities? Doing whatever they can to get those benefits? There are politicians fighting for them to get more benefits. Obviously illegal immigrants are getting benefits. Why would they come here if they didn’t? There’s an incentive to come here. Great. Make two higher tax brackets and get that money back. They pay sales tax. It ain’t enough. Yes. Farms are gonna suffer bc they’re paying illegal immigrants so low wages bc they’re off the books.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Not enough to incentivize losing 90 billion dollars all at once. Can you prove they steal as much in identity fraud as they contribute in federal/state taxes?

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Anonymous #1 1w

You want to harm Americas home grown ag industry because you don’t like how they contribute to cultural change?

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Anonymous #2 1w

This is a bad question to ask. This isn’t the point. Culture is good. But we have that. New people aren’t bringing more culture. We’re a nation of immigrants as you said.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I actually asked two questions. And you haven’t answered either. New people inherently means new cultural values and changes. Now could you answer.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I answered one of them. I disagree. Plus, it doesn’t even matter bc they’re illegal and they shouldn’t be here regardless of their cultural effect. I can prove that illegal immigrants are a net loss to us, yes.

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Anonymous #1 1w

It 100% matters. You claiming irrelevance to questions you don’t like don’t actually make them irrelevant. Answer the other please.

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Anonymous #2 1w

It doesn’t. Because if they add a cultural value, which I believe they don’t, they’re still illegal. They need to get out. You’re just trying to make it look and sound bad.

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Anonymous #1 1w

And I did. I said that illegal immigrants are a net loss. We lose money to them.

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Anonymous #1 1w

They do. It is an inherent cultural addition to bring modern cultural values from one place to another I didn’t ask for a net gain. I asked for taxes vs identity fraud gain/loss ratio.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Losing 90 billion dollars all at once is bad. Especially when it comes from a group that as a majority, doesn’t get access to things that require a social security number.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Again, doesn’t matter. It is a crime. A federal crime. You are advocating for federal crime. I can’t prove identity fraud. I came up with a solution on how they could possibly be getting benefits. What can be proven is that we lose billions of dollars to them every year. So losing 90 billion to get rid of all of them is an investment. You’re basically saying “no, I don’t believe illegal immigrants get benefits, even though we lose 150-450 billion dollars to them annually.” All other countries

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Anonymous #1 1w

Have borders, they choose who to let in and who to reject. The U.S. is not the martyr for the entire world. Y’all know this, yall know this is true, just don’t want to say it for reasons everybody knows.

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Anonymous #1 1w

You made a claim you can’t prove then lol. You mentioned how a lot of them commit this crime but you admit you can’t prove the crime. So when you voted Trump, you understood his plan to be a solution to the illegal immigration issue?

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Anonymous #1 1w

We also have borders. You can pretend we don’t; but the Trump admin has challenged and made it more difficult to cross legally as well.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I don’t know how they get benefits. I suggested one way they could. I don’t need to prove they do it through identity fraud, I just need to prove that America loses money to them every year. Like I said 150-450 billion every year. Yes, I wanted him to deport all illegals. I think they need to make it harder. Impossible. No one can get in without us knowing. Pick up the pace on deporting them too.

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Anonymous #1 1w

So to be clear. You’re against crime, but dismissed AND supported a man with a criminal record?

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Anonymous #2 1w

That’s a whole different issue. People came for him because they specifically tried to make sure he couldn’t run for president. That’s besides the point.

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Anonymous #1 1w

No. A jury of his peers vetted by his legal team came to the conclusion. You’re okay with crime! You cherry pick what crime or criminals to support.

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