Anonymous #1 3w

Curious what angle you’re coming from

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Anonymous #2 3w

No country has a right to exist

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Anonymous #3 3w

What’s the alternative?

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Anonymous .gaia. 3w

I agree with you

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Anonymous #2 3w

Countries don’t have the right to exist the people who live in them do.

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Anonymous #8 3w

That sounds great, how would that actually work tho?

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Anonymous #2 3w

I mean look at Nazi Germany & Apartheid South Africa. The Germans & White South Africans are still here despite those countries no longer existing in those forms anymore

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Anonymous #8 3w

Nazi Germany wasn’t a country, neither was Apartheid, they were ideologies. South Africa and Germany are still countries that exist, and now they are better because those are gone but the country is still there

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Anonymous #2 3w

Zionism is an idealogy

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Anonymous #9 3w

Right, it’s not a country

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Uh oh

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Anonymous #6 3w

I promise you I’m not a radfem

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Anonymous #2 3w

What if I told you that the german state also shouldnt exist? When I say a state shouldn’t exist, that means it’s governing ideology in addition to the institutions and structures that underpin it. You’re absolutely right that the structures of those governments persisted, and that is bad too.

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Anonymous #16 3w

Require & ethnic cleansing do not belong in the same sentence.The obvious solution is making a line from Gaza to the West Bank everything under is Palestine & everything north is Israel. With a DMZ that is filled with landmines & barbed wire. Safety & security for both. Maybe instead of helping those with the upper hand commit genocide we should look for common sense solutions instead of making decisions that only enrich the few. It’s pretty blatant whats going on.

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Anonymous #11 3w

Guess who’s moving in after everything is demolished & rebuilt. Do you think they are gonna let people (whoever is still alive) rebuild their homes on the same land where they lived. No they will build luxurious boulevards. Expensive condos, resorts etc. not a chance look up who is already ready to “invest” steal the land from who was there. All foreign investors colonizing. Just like America maybe thats why we give them so much resources to these colonizers

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Anonymous #11 3w

I don’t know where you got the notion that I was FOR ethnic cleansing, because it’s something I’m very much AGAINST. I don’t think there necessarily needs to be a DMZ, but Israel either needs to withdraw from the West Bank and recognize Palestine as a sovereign nation (the best solution) and if they won’t do that they need to at the very least give Palestinians representation in government if Israel continues to essentially occupy it. Israel is violating international ethics.

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Anonymous #16 3w

International law

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Anonymous #16 3w

Or they can have a strip of land with their own border security that connects Gaza to the West Bank and anyone that wants to go through this area will have to pass through customs to access other parts of Israel like an American would that wants to drive to Alaska through Canada and they can see how they like it when the shoe is on the other foot when the tables have turned

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Anonymous #17 3w

As stated before in here countries don’t have the right to exist people do. Also why is the framing of Israel doing a genocide always on how those in Israel feel & never the fact that Israel is doing a genocide

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Anonymous #8 3w

Hamas are literal terrorists murdering women and children

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Anonymous #17 3w

So what does that make the IDF

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Anonymous #17 3w

Using your definition, Israel and the U.S. are also terrorists

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Anonymous #3 3w

Didn’t make a definition of anything. I said Hamas are terrorists and that they have murdered women and children referring to Oct 7th. Not the same thing as the collateral damage of civilians that unfortunately happen in all wars. Seriously did you not see the footage that Hamas filmed torturing Jews on Oct 7th?

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Anonymous #17 3w

Israel has been committing a genocide for the past 2 and a half years and you still think we should center October 7th in this discussion?

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Anonymous #17 3w

Just to give some context.. Hamas killed over 1,200 people and kidnapped and injured hundreds more than that on one night. That would the equivalent population wise to like a terrorist group from let’s say Mexico murdering ~42,500 people tonight in the US. Would the US not retaliate in an act of war against Mexico then? That entire thing seems to be forgotten about in this whole discussion

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Anonymous #17 3w

I didn’t realize indiscriminate bombing, sniping a record amount of children, reporters, aid workers, etc is just a normal casualty of war. If 10/7 make Hamas terrorist what are the IDF considering they have done far more then Hamas

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Anonymous #8 3w

Also 10/7 isn’t the start date. Fun fact 2023 was named the deadliest year for Palestinians due to them being killed by the IDF & Settlers & that was before 10/7. Also we know what America would do because we did it & most people agree it was stupid & bad

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Anonymous #3 3w

Well that sparked a war

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Anonymous #17 3w

Crazy how nothing justifies 10/7 but 10/7 somehow justifies everything. Like your response to learning that prior to 10/7 2023 was still named the deadliest year for Palestinians is well it led to a war. Like be for real

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Anonymous #3 3w

Do you have a good source on who the casualties actually are? If terrorists are their elected leadership how do you know how many deaths are the result of Hamas’s actions. Like the building of military cells underneath civilian territories and using resources/aid for themselves and starving their own people. You have to consider other reasons for the deaths in an active war. Also, usually people committing a genocide don’t give aid to the people they wish to erase.

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Anonymous #17 3w

Yes, and we do not give them a blank check so we (the United states)are (is) not complicit. Israeli military and intelligence officials helped Sheikh Ahmed Yassin as a counterweight to Palestinian nationalism in the 80s. Hamas did not exist yet it was founded in 1987 during the First Intifada

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Anonymous #17 3w

I’ve seen numerous photos/videos that were shared everywhere saying they were Israel killing someone and then it was actually an image from some other conflict in the world. There’s a huge attempt to control the world’s perception on this war, I see a lot of propaganda. Possibly it’s both sides participating

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Anonymous #3 3w

Nobody gets a pass not bush or Obama or anyone else the endless wars are not only horrific but not in the best interest of the American taxpayer its very simple

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Anonymous #17 3w

Yes they block aid, access to farmland, and destroy the infrastructure necessary for a civilization to thrive like hospitals, schools & homes as well as places of worship and their burial grounds

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Anonymous #17 3w

You ever wonder why most people hate Israel & Zionist?

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Anonymous #8 3w

I shouldn’t even respond to this it makes you sound uneducated, please elaborate.

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Anonymous #11 3w

You’re a literal genocide denier you’re the only uneducated person here. But Zionist live in their own world they think they’re making good points but to everyone else at best they come off as smug & annoying & at worst genocidal maniacs which is why Israel only gets more unpopular by the slip in day & hate for Zionism & Zionist grow daily.

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Anonymous #8 3w

I am #11 if you read any of my other posts, you would eat your words and a frank you sound uneducated because you are not focused on having a productive conversation. Why most people hate anyone is a moot point. And it does not add anything substantive to this conversation. Scroll up read my other posts in this thread and let me know how that frank tastes.

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Anonymous #8 3w

You are obviously a little bit slow so let me narrow it down. Read my response. To #16 5 hours ago it should be clear enough even for you to understand.

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Anonymous #11 3w

I was responding to 17 and responded to the wrong person but damn no need to be such a smug ass about it

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Anonymous #8 3w

Also after hearing the same bs all the time from Israel defenders gets super old it’s 2026 they know what’s happening & anyone repeating that dumb stuff & pretending like there’s no evidence of Israels numerous war crimes is uninterested in a genuine & productive conversation, I have no problem reminding them that they’re hated & disliked by most people. Sorry for not being so patient 100% of the time

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Anonymous #8 3w

Maybe it’s because of my background but I get tired of having to justify why people should be treated equally. My b

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Anonymous #11 3w

Well Israel is currently giving the Gaza Strip aid which obv not the same but like I don’t remember the US giving aid to Germany in WW1 when at war with them. Since when are you required to give aid to another country you’re at war with? There are restrictions to make sure the aid goes to civilians and not Hamas to be used for military purposes.

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Anonymous #17 3w

Under international law Israel is required to give aid not that Israel follows international law. Israel an illegal occupying force that’s restricting aid & killing aid workers

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Anonymous #8 3w

Israel also paid a bandit group to steal aid & even with the help of America murder people trying to get aid had designated aid sites. This includes women & children

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Anonymous #8 3w

And the pro Palestine crowd comes off as pro terrorists that hate Jews and America. The same people you’re cheering for do not share your democratic values. Very ironic that there are “gays for Palestine” yet gay men get beheaded in the Gaza Strip and it is illegal to be gay in most places Middle East EXCEPT in Israel. Don’t even get me started on how women are treated too

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Anonymous #17 3w

Advocating for the well being of innocent Palestinian citizens who do not support Hamas or murdering innocent Jews (even though they voted them in🤔?) is one thing, but to seriously be sympathetic to Hamas itself is insane. Am I misunderstanding you or do you also think like ISIS and al-Qaeda are just some groups protecting their people too?

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Anonymous #17 3w

Also there is no evidence that Hamas beheads & kills gay people. There’s one example of a gay person being killed. Some claim that it was because the person was caught being an informant for Israel while pro Israel people say it was because the person was gay but either way there should be a ton of cases not just one if what you said was true. But regardless even if it was true it doesn’t justify genocide. The bombs & bullets still kill gay Palestinians. Also there’s no gay marriage in Israel

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Anonymous #8 3w

You’re insufferable. Genuinely baffling how you actually champion terrorist groups who don’t even want you to have the rights that you have in America. And yeah Ahmad Murkhiyeh, a Palestinian literally sought refuge in Israel bc homosexuality is criminalized in Gaza, but he was found and murdered by Hamas authorities.

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Anonymous #16 3w

The dissolution of a state does not require the removal of a people. I support the dismantling of Israel and the establishment of a single state. I support the repatriation of Palestinians, rebuilding of Arab villages destroyed by Israelis over the last century, and rename streets+cities,removal of Israeli settlers from the West Bank, destruction of the walls around Gaza and the West Bank, release of the wrongfully imprisoned, and a commission to try all involved in crimes over the past century

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Anonymous #17 3w

You did the thing the thing I said all Zionist who pink wash love to do. You brought up Ahmad Murkhiyeh which is again the lone documented case. If what you’ve clamming is true then there should be multiple cases. Also Israel has helped Isis fight Hamas so it’s insane to try to compare the two. The only thing I champion is not committing genocide. Nothing justifies genocide. My views on Jews are independent of my views on Israel & Zionism. Judaism ≠ Zionism. Jews like everyone else aren’t a

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Anonymous #8 3w

Monolith & you trying to link all Jews to the genocidal apartheid state is not only antisemitism but also genuinely dangerous for Jews

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Anonymous #16 3w

Living participants of the Israeli regime would also be tried for their crimes and involvement with capital punishment on the table for them and members of the IDF with documented egregious acts, with special scrutiny placed on Mossad and its members, and all Mossad files would be declassified regardless of questions of national security for other countries. And all members of revolutionary Palestinian organizations would be exonerated of their crimes.

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Anonymous .gaia. 3w

Omg you’re actually insane if you’re really characterizing Hamas as a “revolutionary group” who’s just in the right. Where do you get your information?

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Anonymous #17 3w

I didn’t even mention Hamas

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Anonymous #17 3w

Collateral damage doesn’t exist at this scale. They are well trained and well funded. It is obviously intentional. They are some of the best trained military on the planet. They can do much better. This is obviously indiscriminate bombing and artillery. Also with some targeted attacks on the media, paramedics, people providing supplies and a lot of civilians women and children

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Anonymous #8 3w

So hows that frank taste 🌭 Proof read your 📝 next time

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Anonymous #8 3w

Furthermore if you want to contribute to the conversation, but the only thing you have to say is, why do you think most people hate Israel or Zionism? You are not contributing to the conversation the in a positive or meaningful way & that shit definitely sounds antisemitic.

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Anonymous #8 3w

Well said & concise

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Anonymous #11 3w

You really like to be an ass lol😭. Also if you read all of my comments on this post you know I definitely have way more to contribute to the conversation other than “why do you think most people hate Israel & Zionism?” But as I said before sometimes I get tired of explaining why people deserve to be treated as humans & don’t really care about the feelings of bad faith actors & like to remind them that they’re hated. Also I don’t think it’s antisemitic it’s true & my answer has nothing to

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Anonymous #8 3w

Do with Jews because as I’ve stated before Judaism ≠ Zionism & Jews aren’t a monolithic plus most Zionist in America aren’t Jewish they’re Eve Angelica, Christian, although anyone can be a Zionism Biden repeatedly & proudly said he was a Zionist

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Anonymous #8 3w

Yeah, let’s just try to stay focused on policy OK as opposed to opinions or how you feel or how a majority of people feel it would be more productive to just stick to the facts

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