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One of the biggest clues that republicans are living in their own world of delusion is that some of them will genuinely try and argue that Elon wasn’t doing a Roman Salute here.
182 upvotes, 83 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in US Politics. "One of the biggest clues that republicans are living in their own world of delusion is that some of them will genuinely try and argue that Elon wasn’t doing a Roman Salute here."
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Anonymous 10w

And then show you a still frame image of a wave without the rest of the movement and act like it’s somehow the same thing 🙄

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Anonymous 10w

He's already killed almost a million people and continues to promote white nationalist propaganda on Twitter

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Anonymous 10w

Difference between Democrats and Republicans. Republicans will see the wrong in things and understand both sides. Democrats will bulldoze over the republicans side and not give a crap about the reproductions. There was NO messaging about how we “bend over backwards to defend Nazi Salutes” I think I can speak for many republicans that we do not condone that type of rhetoric so saying that we are stupid just shows your own character.

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Anonymous 10w

That wasn’t even a Roman salute

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Anonymous 10w

Get a life. He was extremely excited about Trump winning the presidency. I can do the same thing here. What is the difference? Cause I don’t see one. U didn’t see republicans getting all bent out of shape about it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

No videos? 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

The difference is you gave us a freeze frame and we gave you the entire video. Give us the entire video showing their full action. Oh wait, you can’t. Because if you gave the full video, we’d all see you took a still image of a wave

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 10w

Yes it is 😭😭😭 do you have any knowledge of Roman culture? Look up the oath of horati. The symbol of Roman courage was co-opted by fascists in Germany which is where we got the Sieg Heil. They deliberately used Roman culture to imitate the grand empire

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

Why will Republicans bend over backwards to defend Nazi salutes and misrepresent literally everything lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 10w

how? not trolling i j hadn't heard of dat

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

The action was the same but it wasn’t called the “Roman salute” until the 20th century when it was co-opted by fascisrs

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 10w

He made cuts to USAID when we was in charge of DOGE and IMMEDIATELY people began dying because he cut them off from life support. I think the numbers are around 70000 deaths and rising because the cuts have remained in place. It’s specifically deaths caused by the policy over which he oversaw the enforcement

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Excuse me 700000 deaths

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 10w

Yes I will agree with that. However, while the name was not official, it was the symbol specifically which they cared to take. To them, they were making an oath to fight back against Jews or whatever other minority groups they didn’t like

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

To answer your question…it’s because us republicans have better more pressing matters at hand to solve than go down a rabbit hole of if this said person did a nazi salute or not. That is the reason why we have not much video evidence…it’s because we saw it and didn’t think anything of it. This happened literally a year and a half ago!!! People need to get a job or get a life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Here is a lovely video. https://youtu.be/55MtlRBXwU0?si=KHTJGVKETAlCiw_8

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

Hey so when Nazis hijack your party, it’s a pretty fucking big deal because idk about you, but I don’t want a Nazi representing me in any political office

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Anonymous 10w

List how republicans are nazis. I would like to know true facts. Thanks.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

Nationalism, promotion of a white ethnostate, scapegoating minorities, attacking democratic processes, strongman politics, calling the media “fake news”, promotion/exaggeration of conspiracy theories, attack academic institutions, banning books, dehumanizing language like “illegals” and “blacks” without including the word “humans” or “people”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Appealing to the fear of replacement, questioning the legitimacy of political opponents (falls under exaggerating conspiracy theories). The point being: these behaviors are not unique to Nazis, but Nazis famously took all of these to the extreme to take over their government which is sane people with any understanding of history look at the Republican Party and are reminded of the Nazi party

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

And btw, we aren’t talking about Nazis during the holocaust, we’re talking about the Nazi party in 1926 and the events and sentiments that led to the holocaust. We’ve seen how this plays out and we are trying to point that out to you and you completely ignore it

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

Nazis? No. Fascists? Yeah.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

So when Elon, a known and proud white nationalist, does that salute after referencing the 14 words (exactly the sort of oath/motto you are describing), it’s the same thing. You understand that right?

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Anonymous replying to -> amethyst_headphone51 10w

I’m on your side 😭😭😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Yk what’s crazy is that we’re not the only country in the world that can help people. There’s the entirety of Europe for starters

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 10w

We are richer

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 10w

Well when you parade your country as the “land of the free” and talk so highly of the “American Dream” then you have a responsibility to put your money where your mouth is 🤷

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

Odd since the rest of your fellow republicans here and in other posts keep trying to defend it

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Nationalism doesn’t automatically correlate to Nazism, that’s not even remotely true, how are they scapegoating minorities?, you believe everything the media tells you?, the word illegal is used everywhere, if they aren’t here legally what are they? Let’s spell it out illegal, so that makes them what? An illegal immigrant. Appealing to fear of replacement and questioning the legitimacy of a political opinion aren’t even Nazi equivalent, many people in power have felt this, even the left.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Great replacement theory bs is textbook minority scapegoating. You accuse people of believing ev the media tells them while you’re puking straight Fox News talking points. Grow a fucking brain sheep

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 10w

What the actual fuck are you talking about? All media includes Fox News. Ironic when you can’t even comprehend what I just stated, yeah I’m the sheep. Learn to read

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Your giant brick of text made zero sense and contradicts all the shit this government is putting out. Who the fuck is being replaced?? American jobs are being automated away or sent overseas by the giant corporations that all are in Trump's pockets. Blaming all of our problems on immigrants is the literal definition of scapegoating.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

A fear of replacement was exactly a Nazi tactic read up on your history

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 10w

No way jobs are getting automated? Man you should like someone when the industrial revolution started. No one is blaming all our problems on immigrants, especially illegal. But illegal immigrants are the causing some of the problems here.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 10w

I have which is why 1am saying majority of what you said every country has experienced that, so saying oh it's what the Nazis has no relevance. That's like saying each country has a leader so they are the same as Nazis.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

Had to screenshot this to include it since the comment thread has grown so long. But this comment genuinely makes no fucking sense. This isn’t how the internet works. Elon went viral for reasons other people in this thread have already stated, not because Democrats have some rabbit hole obsession as you’re trying to frame it. If Obama did the same thing it would also go viral. (Except obviously he did not). “Republicans not caring” as you claim isn’t going to prevent something from gaining views

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

We have so many of our own citizens who are homeless, starving, and in need of medical assistance. Why should we take care of the rest of the world when we can’t even take care of our own? (We can, we just refuse to for corporate $)

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 10w

We can take care of our own. With the money we have we can also take care of immigrants. We’re just choosing not to. You are taking your frustration out of immigrants and other countries instead of your own government failing its duty to serve the people

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

“Nationalism doesn’t automatically correlate to Nazism” you clearly did not read what I said because I very explicitly say none of this is unique to the Nazis, but is unique to fascists, mostly unique specifically to the Nazis

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Dude scapegoating minorities is shit like Trump saying your problems are caused by immigrants instead of the 1% you are a fucking sheep Jesus Christ I’m arguing with fucking moron who can’t think critically

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

NO THEY ARENT. Illegal immigrants make up about $100billion paid in taxes yearly. THEY DONT GET THOSE ADVANTAGES THAT COME WITH PAYING THAT MUCH. Also, if one immigrant commits a crime and you say “see!! All immigrants are bad” why don’t you see one citizen do the same and say all citizens are bad? WHY DONT YOU SAY IT ABOUT COPS

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Show me in my list where I said “all media” show me. Screenshot and highlight the section in which I said “ALL media”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Yeah, so let’s figure out taking care of ourselves first before taking care of everyone else. If your house is struggling and sick, you’re gonna prioritize them over helping your neighbor simply by virtue of them being your house and your family, not because you hate your neighbor 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Illegal immigrants do not play taxes yearly. They get plenty of advantages like free stay at hotels for free, and free food. No, it’s illegal immigrants that are the issue not legal ones. I’m not sure where you are getting people are saying all immigrants are bad.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

I never said you said that. I said all media

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 10w

Yes, I am aware but that has nothing to do with illegal immigration issues.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Again nationalism does not immediately correlate to fascism. It also seems that only fascist regime the left can come with is the Nazi regime, but will never mention the imperial Japan or anything else.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

It’s weird that you assume all illegal immigrants are minorities. There was a Canadian woman who was here illegally and was arrested for assaulting a teenager. The only moron here is you and you seem like a racist who only thinks illegal immigrants are minorities.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

The vast majority of illegal immigrants are from across the southern border and yes they are minorities. Using a single anecdote doesn’t make you correct

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 10w

Yes, but they are not all from the southern border. It was a single example of crime caused by an illegal immigrant. Also, the USA is not the only one having this issue with violence from illegal immigrants.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

“Not all” is true. Minorities still make up the majority of illegal immigrants, though. Take a look at the proportion of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants compared to the proportion of violent crimes committed by US citizens. What does the data show? I can link sources if you’re unsure.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

We assume illegal immigrants are minorities because immigrants are a minority population. Educate yourself on the topic of 🌈intersectionality 🌈

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Fascism is characterized by hypernationalism. Imperialist Japan fits that bill as well. You can also compare that to Italy under Mussolini or Spain under Franco. The reason we bring up the Nazis is because that’s the only fascist regime most people know about.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Oh hey it’s the kid from history class that was never awake

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 10w

Odd I got straight As in every history class and including college too.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

So is a white person from let’s say France came here illegally they were considered a minority? I truly do not give a shit about the persons skin color, as long as they come here legally I don’t care. It’s weird to stand up for illegal immigrants when legal immigrants work really hard to get here and improve their lives.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

French people aren’t white 🥱

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Yes. You can be white and also an immigrant (a minority demographic). This isn’t hard to understand. A person can be white and gay. Does that some how mean that because they are white they can’t experience homophobia? Ofc not. French immigrants can still experience xenophobia that you wouldn’t experience as a citizen.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

It’s not weird to stand up for illegal immigrants. The only crime they’ve committed is not having the proper signature. That’s literally it. They’re still people and when you have people like Trump calling them animals and aliens then yeah I’m going to stand up for their personhood

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

No it is, you are standing up for criminals. There are some that are animals, the ones that kill people and rape women. In the UK an 18 year old was stabbed multiple times and the police arrested him because the guy said he said something racist. He said he was stabbed and he couldn’t breathe, the police didn’t believe him. He died and the police took the killer to dinner. There was also an African illegal immigrant who tried to behead an Irish man in Ireland. How is their only crime that?

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

This rhetoric is so stupid. Citizens commit the same crimes at a higher rate. Violence is a human problem, not an illegal immigrant problem. You guys are so selective about the violence you choose to care about.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 10w

We aren’t talking about citizens we are talking about illegal immigrants causing more problems. Of course it is, but it doesn’t negate the added issue. It’s a bit ironic since you are doing the same thing you are accusing me of. Won’t call out the violence illegal immigrants are causing simply because it’s a human problem. It’s just like the American woman who had the same ideals you have, she died in Ireland by an illegal immigrant. You’re suicidal empathy with be the death and of rape others.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

I think what it comes down to is you don’t want to come with terms with the fact that you’re racist

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

What about the white male Citizens out their raping women?

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

The point of them bringing up citizens is because citizens commit so much more crime, even by per capita numbers

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 10w

Cool story bro! What about the man from Tennessee who attacks a Honduran man’s fruit stand (the man wasn’t an immigrant) but because he “looked” like an immigrant a white citizen attacked him and his business. Call citizens are violent animals. See how stupid that sounds? Youre so selective based on skin color it’s ridiculous

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

The difference between me and you is I can agree that person should be in jail for what he did. But you won’t acknowledge the reality what some of these illegals immigrants have been doing. I gave you some examples, and your response “is cool story bro!”. Don’t care about the victims huh? I recall saying I don’t care about the persons skin color. Did you read past that?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

They should either get chemically castrated or the death penalty. See I’m not selective on crime, but you are.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

No you literally are selective on crime because you demonized the entirety of illegal immgirants as rapists because of the actions of a few, but refuse to do the same for citizens because of the actions of a few. THIS is why we said you are being selective

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

I’m assuming you do not have a high reading comprehension skill level, I said this multiple times “some”. So please tell me how the word “some” is affiliated with the word “entirely”. I recall saying they should get chemically castrated or the death penalty. It appears you aren’t actually reading what I am saying.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

It’s a bit weird that 3 people disliked my comment about what to do with white rapist.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

No I read when you said some, but you decided to say it is suicidal empathy because what? I stand up for immigrants and because a few are rapists I should stand up for any immigrants? Yeah rapists exist no shit and they’re vile and disgusting. That has nothing to do with illegal immigrants tho. YOU brought that up when talking about illegal immigrants

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

No. The actual problem is violence perpetrated by men, especially against women. This is a gendered problem. I’m so confused why you’re making this into a problem with illegal immigrants. Men commit over 90% of violent crime and that doesn’t change over ANY population. It has literally nothing to do with immigration status.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

So you read what I said then proceed to say that I said entirely. Yeah your suicidal empathy just like that woman who died for illegal immigrant. No, you stand up for illegal immigrants. If you stood up from legal immigrants you wouldn’t be standing up for illegal ones, since they skip the process which is a giant fuck you to the ones who are trying to come here legally. Yeah, I brought it up because it happens.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Exhibit one million of a conservative treating illegal immigration like a criminal act when it’s a civil infraction

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 10w

Cool I’m not a conservative nice assumption there. It’s actually both criminal and civil offense.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Well you’re certainly not centrist or left wing, based on your views. Where exactly is illegal immigration a criminal offense? Can you cite that?

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

Okay I have a question: would you be okay with someone stealing bread being arrested for a criminal offense?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

1. Not really 2. Do you mean repercussions lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 10w

Based on my views? I only presented one view on immigration. I’m all for it, just come here legally. “Section 1325 sets forth criminal offenses relating to (1) improper entry into the United States by an alien” -https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1911-8-usc-1325-unlawful-entry-failure-depart-fleeing-immigration There’s your cite

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 10w

You’re citing the crime of improper entry. That doesn’t mean all unauthorized immigration is a criminal offense. Many illegal immigrants did not enter unlawfu my and may have overstayed a visa or lost lawful status, which is a civil immigration violation, not a criminal offense. There’s a difference between entering the country unlawfully and being here without or with expired authorization. It CAN be a criminal offense, but being an illegal immigrant in itself is a civil offense

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Yes since bread is very inexpensive and it’s theft regardless of how small it is. Being okay with small theft opens the door to where people will just start stealing more.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Usually they enter the country how? So if they overstayed a visa or lost lawful status they are here illegally and have to leave. Thats why I said it can be both. We are both in agreement that it can be both criminal and civil

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