Anonymous stoner22 4w

He redistricted his state that’s more than anything mamdani has done. Again not that mamdani is bad or anything. You guys just don’t know anything.

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

Yeah and that’s cool that person was released but Gavin is doing things at a national level like responding to Republican redistricting that’s made to take reps away from dem voters.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

okay first of all get off your pedestal love. Second of all yeah Gavin dod a good thing by pushing for redisitricting but that’s also the bare minimum of fighting back. Other than that whst has he done? Besides tear up a homeless camp for a photo op and recently say democrats need to be “more normal” aka dump trans people. I’d looove to know hun

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

Which that’s fine Mamdani is mayor I don’t expect him to do more, but it’s cringe to use him to attack people who are pushing against maga in meaningful ways.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Mamdani doesnt sell out his constituency and until he does he’s miles better than Gavin.

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

I like when Mamdani talks to the president about something it’s not the bare minimum, but when Gavin pushes a one of a kind redistricting bill that’s the bare minimum. I’m not on a pedestal I’m saying both are cool people. If anything you are.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Mamdani could only survive in the bluest of blue areas like New York. Which is fine but let’s be fr. Also has nothing to do with anything I said.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

He’s the most popular democrat from New York in decades his popularity isn’t just in NYC, and it matters because we should be trying to replicate the things that work

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

that’s why maga supports his affordability policies right?

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

Okay mamdani aside are you gonna comment on Gavin’s scapegoating of trans people and homeless folk?

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Anonymous #3 4w

Don’t forget he’s also against a billionaire tax

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Anonymous #3 4w

The guy who has no movement toward a state-run, single-payer healthcare system? The guy with a close relationship with Silicon Valley? The guy who attempts to reduce street homelessness through increased policing and removing encampments? His constant flip-flopping on business regulations? Him criticizing transgender athletes?

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Anonymous #3 4w

Pretending like those things are true, yep!

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Ok then go and do that, if that was true we should see more mandanis outside of the bluest areas of the country.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

They are all true tho lol?

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Which is fine if people want to vote for that go for it! But let’s not overstate what it is,

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

What are referring to? I’m fine if we change topics what specific thing are we referencing?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

They are all true…

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

So is this one

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

It’s not an overstatement to say that he has more broad appeal nationally than any other democrat with a national profile besides maybe Sanders

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Sanders lost the popular vote in the primary against Hillary lol why would we think that?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Ah yes primaries are definitely a reflection of national broad appeal, not national approval ratings that account for independents and conservatives as well, and not just the most hardcore party loyalists

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Anonymous #3 4w

Ok chill I know you guys only read headlines I’ll have to read through all of these articles before I comment.

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Anonymous #3 4w

I’ll read them sometime this weekend they’re on my list.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

I can keep going…

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Anonymous #3 4w

These things might be true btw, I’m not saying they’re not to be clear.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

You gonna ignore my comment?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Gavin has made a publicity stunt of tearing down a homeless camp and trashing what little they owned. In serval interviews he has said Dems need to be “culturally normal”, to abandon trans people and others.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

I don’t care about appeal if it doesn’t turn into any political power, that would be the entire point of having appeal in a democratic system. I Imagine appeal of minastream dems would be down right after a mainstream dem lost a huge election. I’m assuming that’s when this poll was taken?

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

Which one?

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Anonymous #3 4w

Omg the headlines

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Anonymous #3 4w

That’s crazy that’s so many headlines.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Oh yes and I’m sure their popularity has only skyrocketed as they’ve demonstrated their resolve to do absolutely nothing meaningful to resist Trump

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

That’s not what he meant when he said culturally normal. He said we shouldn’t focus on pronouns over table top issues which is fine.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Defining “normal” the way he did implicitly suggests trans people aren’t normal, a very dangerous thing to say in the modern political climate considering the GOP wants to exterminate them

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Anonymous #3 4w

You keep dropping headlines I’ll have to read them and then read up on his rational for his position to come to a conclusion.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Why does his rational matter? His rational for having bad policies has no material impact on how he’d govern LMFAO

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Bc I don’t know if it’s a bad policy? All I’m seeing are headlines idk if these headlines are exaggerating things or missing context. If he has a good reason why a policy may be a net negative then that also would factor into what I think.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

His rational would provide the counter argument for why a thing may be bad, not saying that it’s correct I have no clue what the debate looks like for these topics.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Again his redistricting is more meaningful resistance than anything Mamdani has done.

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Anonymous #3 4w

That’s cool but he wasn’t talking about trans people he was talking about culture war issues broadly. Also normal is inherently positively loaded it can just mean common or average. He added context to what he said and he didn’t say anything about trans people being bad. He just said that tactically it wasn’t a good target to focus on culture war things.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Isnt*

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Hes reached across the aisle to actual Nazis and people who want to exterminate trans people. Who see them as lesser.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Also Mamdani isn’t even on this poll.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

This is who Gavin is trying to befriend. Who he says democrats should be more like:

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

When did he say we should befriend Trump is that who you mean lmao?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

can’t believe I have to tell you this but LGBTQ+ rights aren’t a “culture war” issue but merely defending basic human rights as recognized by the United Nations

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Anonymous stoner22 4w

Just bc you talk to people wouldn’t be throwing trans people under the bus. I thought those convos were cringe bc he didn’t push them on most things, but he obviously wasn’t agreeing with them on anything besides optical strategy and the trans sports thing.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Wow crazy how no one gives af about redirecting and still view Newsome as a centrist DINO

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

*redistricting

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Which is fine Mamdani is a mayor I don’t want to sound like Mamdani hater I genuinely like him, but it’s true regardless.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

And yes it was taken early 2025 he wasn’t a national figure rn but we ca compare his current approval (+48 in NY state) and see that has far more popular than any other dem

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Anonymous #3 4w

I never said it wasn’t basic human rights idk what you’re even responding to? I’m pro trans.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

andy beshear is more popular I’m assuming there’s others if we’re just looking at state figures

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

before getting brain damage and becoming a total chud, John Fetterman won specifically because he ran as a progressive candidate and anti-establishment figure.

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Anonymous #4 4w

Ok

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Anonymous #3 4w

So in California it’s already illegal to discriminate based on someone’s ancestry so discriminating against someone’s caste is already illegal. To me it seems like he was worried what the bill would be seen as some xenophobic thing against Hindu people living in California.

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Anonymous #3 4w

For the striking thing it looks like he was against it bc the unemployment insurance trust fund was already in debt bc it owes the federal government $18.5 billion. That seems to be ok usually state’s don’t have the ability to take on a ton of debt like our federal government can.

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Anonymous #3 4w

For the plastic thing Gavin signed into law. The statutory deadlines haven’t changed so they can go back and forth on deciding the regulatory language but it has to meet its statutory deadlines. Ig you can say he’s purposefully delaying the regulatory language for evil reasons, but idk what you would point at to prove that.

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Anonymous #3 4w

I think it’s fair to be mad at Newsom for walking back on single-payer he chose to promise it and it’s not there. He has still expanded coverage of Medi-Cal to cover more people and he’s dealing with a large state deficit, but then he shouldn’t promise something like that. He still thinks it’s the best system it seems.

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Anonymous #3 4w

So the tech article is about two laws which regulate tech that big tech supported. It depends what your specific problems are with these bills? One is about age verification the other is ai regulation.

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Anonymous #3 4w

He doesn’t like the billionaire tax because it’s a one time wealth tax that he thinks will make rich people leave and when they leave you won’t be able to tax them with California’s already progressive tax system.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

That’s crazy you don’t care about redistracting? so you think republicans should be allowed to gerrymander their states and take away democratic seats from their voters with no response from democrats?

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

That’s probably the most politically illiterate thing I’ve ever heard you say, which is saying something.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Which btw you allowed to not care, that’s fine, but that’s still more meaningful push back against republicans than anything Mamdani has done.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

I’m not saying people SHOULDNT care I’m recognizing the political reality that people DONT

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

Yeah that would be bad though and people do care it was passed by the people of Cali.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Nobody is going to be thinking about that in 2027 when primaries kick off. Live in reality please

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

I’m not saying I’m for him in the primaries. I just think the criticisms of him have gotten a little insane at this point. I feel like this will be a pattern for any moderate democrat who looks like they might be leading on some issues. It’s gonna be the constant toxic comparison to Mamdani, but maybe I’m wrong.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

“Toxic comparison” and it’s just people wanting a politician who will actually improve their material conditions

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

No one should be thinking about the primaries tbh he hasn’t even confirmed he’s running yet lol. I just think it’s toxic we’re poisoning people against him, bc again he’s done some good things.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

That’s not the comparison I’m talking about. The comparison I’m talking about is lying and saying he’s done nothing to push against maga. You can like Mamdani’s platform more that’s fine. Just say that though.

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Anonymous dumbegg 4w

And he has improved material conditions he expanded the population covered under medi-cal among other things. He’s probably done more than Mamdani bc I don’t Mamdani has even had the time to do anything major yet.

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