Anonymous #1 13w

It’s just a concentration camp. But this was unironically the belief of the KPD (Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands (Communist party of Germany) in Weimar Germany. “Nach Hitler kommen wir” or “After Hitler, our turn”

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Anonymous discotheque 13w

True, iirc the Soviet communist party gave them directions to do that

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Anonymous #5 13w

Yep. Called the Moscow Line. They also referenced to social democrats as social fascists and constantly undermined the SPD. Thalmann deservedly reaped what he sowed imo.

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Anonymous blue__wave 13w

Idk how far left people have been able to spin the narrative this hard.

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They’re describing accelerationists

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Anonymous #8 13w

I literally listed real examples lol. The meme doesn’t work if you use against someone who actually references things.

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Anonymous #8 13w

Ig if you want a specific source for anything I said I can do that, but these aren’t facts that are debated.

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Anonymous blue__wave 13w

“Real” examples lol yes, the Soviet Union was “famously” allies with Nazi Germany (they totally weren’t the ones who defeated Nazi Germany, as we all know), and tell us more about the history of the dprk, oh expert😭

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Anonymous #8 13w

Me when I don’t know what the molotov Ribbentrop pact was.

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Anonymous #8 13w

Read into the KPD I beg. I think this comic directly based off the KPD. Green guy being Ernst Thalmann

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Anonymous #8 13w

I think it’s more accurate to claim that capitalism isn’t the only system that, at its extreme, may lead to totalitarianism. Take the USSR, North Korea, and so forth as examples.

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Anonymous #8 13w

Also North Korea has been ruled by one family this isn’t disputed idk what your implication with that was lol.

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Anonymous blue__wave 13w

Huh? I never said it wasn’t?

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Anonymous #1 13w

Talking to 8

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Anonymous blue__wave 13w

You clearly don’t 💔

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Anonymous #8 13w

What did I say that was wrong?

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And Trump wants to destroy Gaza into a parking lot and build a resort on it. Your point?

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By sitting out the election you handed it over to the greater of two evils

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Anonymous #4 13w

Imagine blaming other people for why your candidates campaign failed instead of looking at yourself and seeing what you could have done better

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What’s the Kamala equivalent to Trump calling for Gaza to be ethnically cleansed?

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Trump also did that one of the differences is that the Biden admin pushed for aid to be delivered to Gaza. Again what's the equivalent?

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Idk how to argue someone out of the privileged position that aid doesn’t matter in a war zone. You don’t think when aid was shut off for 3 months when Trump was president made no difference?

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Is the equivocation of language intentional, or are you actually ignorant to it? No one cheered on a genocide. Literally everyone, except maybe maga, agrees that Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are being killed in large numbers and that it’s wrong. Liberals just disagree with tankies that the intent is to eradicate ethnic Palestinians. Largely because the population of ethnic Palestinians living with citizenship in Israel is nearly double the population of black and African Americans

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Anonymous OP 13w

living in the U.S. It creates a cognitive dissonance when you called it genocide while they hold seats in the Israeli parliament. It’s similar to saying two guys who lost their family in a fire are the same when one fell a sleep with a candle still lit in the house while the other tied everyone up, poured gas on them, and lit the match. The outcome for both may be equal at the end in that both families were killed in a house fire, but the process is dramatically different.

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Anonymous blue__wave 13w

Don’t argue with him he’ll keep flailing around no matter how reasonable your argument.

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Just answer the question then, did the 3 month aid pause not matter at all then? It was the exact same situation in Gaza?

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Anonymous #1 13w

As unfair that it was that Kamala was picked at the last minute instead of winning primaries it was either her or Trump. Her position on Gaza was much less than ideal but it would’ve been easier to work with her than with Trump. That was not the time to dig your heels in and demand perfection. You better be voting for pro-Palestine candidates the primaries(for midterms and general elections) or else I don’t wanna hear anything from you if you still have to pick the lesser of two evils later

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Anonymous #4 13w

Yessir I will vote as you say I have no opinions sir glory to the Democratic Party 🫡

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Anonymous #1 13w

You completely lack reading comprehension skills if that’s what you got out of my comment

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Anonymous #1 13w

At a time like that when there were not really any other options we had to work with what we had. That doesn’t mean I don’t wish there wasn’t a better candidate, but that was the reality of the situation

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Anonymous #4 13w

It’s intentional. They prefer MAGA when there’s not a Dem Soc as an option. They’re afraid that a liberal will improve people’s QoL and increase the standard of living too much at to prevent citizens from murdering their friends and family in the Revolution.

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He canceled $188.8 BILLION in student debt with razor thin congressional margins and a hostile Supreme Court. It’s like you think anything less than ripping up the constitution and being a tankie dictator is unacceptable. You completely lack any understanding of civics or how political capital is used and leveraged.

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The student loan debt forgiveness is a bad example because it would’ve held more weight had it not been heavily contested by, you guessed it, republicans.

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For immigration: Proposed US Citizenship Act of 2021 on his first day in office (though it failed to pass in Congress); repealed first Trump admin’s travel bans on majority-muslim and African countries; raised the annual refugee admissions ceiling to 125,000 (previously 15,000 under Trump); fortified DACA; etc. (much more you can look up).

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For women’s rights: Signed the Violence Against Women Act in 2022; signed EO 14076 in the wake of SCOTUS repealing Roe v Wade to safeguard women’s access to reproductive healthcare; repealed the first Trump admin’s restrictions on Title X family planning clinics (which is the reason I could get an IUD as an uninsured student at no cost); established the White House Gender Policy Council; etc. that you can also look up

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For trans rights: Reversed Trump’s transgender military ban; revised Title IX rules defining sex discrimination in schools to include discrimination based on gender identity; ordered federal agencies to do the same in relation to housing, healthcare, and employment; supported legal challenges to state bans on gender-affirming care for transgender youth; etc.

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Perhaps do some research before you make just blatantly incorrect claims like this

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Anonymous #4 13w

Not to mention the BIL and IRA that had massive investments in transportation, infrastructure, clean energy, domestic manufacturing, healthcare reform, and helped curb runaway inflation. Or preventing medical debt from negatively affecting credit scores. Or banking reforms that dramatically curbed predatory fees and lending practices. Most of these being completely undermined because Trump got back into office.

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Just say you’re an illiberal ML tankie that won’t be happy until Americans are slaughtering each other in the streets instead of pretending you actually care about anything of value.

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I don’t disagree that more could’ve been done to safeguard all of these changes (even though this would’ve been a lot easier if Congress was not as narrowly split as it was during Biden’s term), but you know how we could’ve kept all of those changes and made them stronger in the future? Right, by keeping trump out of office. Which clearly you had no problem with

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Him being a “fascist enabler” doesn’t absolve you and people who think like you from responsibility for letting an actual fascist take office

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Maybe you tankies can start actually caring about the people in your own country, being active in your local communities and governments, and voting in primaries instead of being keyboard warriors

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The more I think about it…this whole “pick a better candidate” thing you say just doesn’t even make sense. Next time get off your ass and vote in the fucking primaries (and spread the word about your candidates) if you want a better candidate.

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Anonymous #4 13w

Every deflection is just “why didn’t he act unilaterally like a dictator?” These people either aren’t serious, illiberal, or both. Even Lincoln refused to act outside the law for abolition. They always assume they’ll get to be part of the in group of the dictatorship, so they’re ok with fascism.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Seriously, these people are fundamentally OK with the idea of a dictator as long as they agree with them

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