Anonymous #1 1w

Idk how a first trimester whatever they’re called has enough of a conscious or personality or whatever for all the aborted to not just be clones of each other and idk what any of that would look like but still

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Anonymous #1 1w

Why is suicide bad

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Anonymous #1 1w

Genuine question, if life is pain and suffering and someone wants to end it, why is it bad and not celebrated?

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Anonymous #2 1w

Suicide isn’t bad, we tell people not to do it bc we don’t want people to take their own life early. It’s sad because it’s a person who has lost hope in their lives and see death as the only way out of their pain. Suicide is someone’s loved one being blinded by pain and unable to see potential of their life. Abortion is not the same as a born person, several years out of the womb, being convinced that life will never get better for them and it’s actually ridiculous that you would try to compare

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Anonymous #2 1w

Because life is more than the pain and suffering and often times can be improved

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Anonymous #4 1w

I don’t see why it’s not comparable when responding to someone saying bypassing the trials of life to the best ending is a blessing. If the reasoning of life being hard is the justification (in this case) for moral mercy on the baby, then why wouldn’t the same principle be able to be applied to adults? You’d think it’d actually be even more applicable for adults since they’ve actually suffered

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Anonymous #2 1w

I think you might be misunderstanding the comment. Theyre saying that *in Christian pro-life views* life is supposed to be hard and a struggle so why wouldn’t we want to have our children skip the struggle of life and go to the perfect ideal afterlife?

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Anonymous #4 1w

I feel like that can’t be the claim because either it’s in bad faith or ignores the rest of the Christian faith. Christians believe unbaptized babies don’t get that salvation. And also every religion says life is a struggle and that’s the point. Can’t just pick one single clip from a religion and tie it into your beliefs as a proof, it’s not consistent

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Anonymous #2 1w

Not all Christians think that, when I went to church I was never taught that

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Anonymous #4 1w

Not all Christians may think that, but it’s still the official platform of the Catholic Church

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Anonymous #4 1w

Yeah. Suicide isn’t the same. It’s not bypassing it, it’s living and feeling so much pain from living compared to others that you can’t take it anymore. I don’t think it should be demonized but we should help them out best to make their life here that’s been started better and at this point they often have people in their life who this would also deeplyyy affect and it’s different from someone who never had feelings in the first place

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Anonymous #1 1w

And if religion is real and it’s true that they go to hell.. well that also shows that it’s not the same. And they’re often so hurt that they’re willing to take that chance even if they think it may be true

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Anonymous #1 1w

If avoiding suffering is moral, would you not consider ending already existent suffering more of a priority than avoiding it in the first place?

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Anonymous #2 1w

Well in this situation they wouldn’t be going to heaven so it would still be eternal suffering

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Anonymous #1 1w

So it would be eternal guaranteed happiness vs eternal suffering

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Anonymous #1 1w

I don’t actually believe any of this for sure btw, I’m raised catholic and now agnostic

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Anonymous #1 1w

I hear you, we’re just talking hypotheticals based on Christian theology. But how so would it be eternal suffering vs eternal salvation? If the babies don’t go to heaven and suicide is a sin that can potentially damn you as well, would it not be eternal suffering vs eternal suffering? You would think the only path to eternal salvation would be to live

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Anonymous #2 1w

If babies don’t go to heaven they don’t go to hell either

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Anonymous #1 1w

I don’t think Christians consider limbo to be happiness or salvation. It’s still considered strongly negative

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Anonymous #2 1w

Idk man if babies or before babies with no thoughts or pain receptors or feelings somehow end up there, I can’t imagine how it would work again. And it is negative and they suffer, that’s just proof to me that it’s all evil or fake and no one knows what they’re talking about. One or the other

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Anonymous #1 1w

Like imagine condemning abortion then sending babies to suffer

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Anonymous #1 1w

But I’d argue part of why they’re against abortion in the first place is because they believe doing so will send them to suffer as opposed to letting them live which is the only way to reach salvation

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Anonymous #2 1w

That makes some sense but still sounds just as or more evil

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Anonymous #1 1w

I dunno man, I don’t think classifying life as a struggle necessarily means it is suffering. It’s a pretty grim way to look at life regardless of if you believe in religion.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Suicide is murder of yourself, which cannot be repented of… because you are dead

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Anonymous #5 1w

The idea of suicide makes me mad, to accept nothing, to give up on everything, I’ve been close before to a choice like that, and I’ve also been close to not having a choice when it comes to an end, the second one shook me way more than the first. In those moments where it feels inevitable the only thought screaming in your head is; I want more, I want to live, I want to survive, and I’ll be damned if I make a dumb choice and feel that shit knowing it can’t be stopped.

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Anonymous #7 1w

Fuck off pedophile

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Anonymous #3 1w

People do, though

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