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Communism is always the end goal, that’s the point. It’s such a shame that it has to go through that insanely brutal authoritarian portion to apparently get to it though 🥴 At least it’s not fascism though!You ever read up on the liberal revolutions against feudalism? They were pretty fuckin illiberal for a minute there, but I don’t think any modern liberal would be like “yeah dawg the French Revolution should’ve never happened, shit got too crazy for a minute there.” Revolution from one entire system to another will always involve extreme violence, or at the ABSOLUTE least, the credible threat of extreme violence. I don’t think that makes revolutionary thought inherently bad.
Why do you say dumbass stuff like this? Hey there, I’m the dude from the screenshot. I’m a very high-functioning person finishing up my second year of law school, I have a great career so far and I’ve worked in legal offices domestically and abroad. I also have a pet Yorkshire Terrier.
Bro come on 😭 You know a majority of you fuckers exist only in online spaces. The ones who exist out in the world that aren’t involved in Discord or Twitter heavily are crypto as fuck or are ACP mfs. Even heavy labor union people aren’t a majority socialist, they’re just specifically workers rights.
No 🤣 i said they weren’t the model standard and then you tried to bring up that I wasn’t the model standard either…like yeah…I’m aware? You’re just mad that you thought you had an own and then fell flat on your face because you thought I’d be like “I am the flag bearer that every liberal needs to model themselves after!”…unlike you, I know what I am.
Thinking “Single-Party = Authoritarian” is so lazy when it doesn’t include tolerance of inner-party disagreement in its analysis. A single mass party with multiple opposing factions within itself can function without completely smashing dissent. Just like a multi-party system where opposition is controlled can be just as authoritarian on the ACTUAL dissenters as any one-party state, while also giving some opposition a false sense of representation (See: Russia)
no, don’t misrepresent me, I asked you whether you believed that the deaths during WW2 were also “needless” in response to that, in which you briefly said no and moved on, ignoring my attempts to hammer the point of WHY the deaths combating genocide and the rise of fascism were not “needless” You apathetic and disingenuous scumbag Matter of fact, I’ll be right back with a picture.
Yeah. What is the exact problem here? Instead of posting screenshots from a conversation that I quite literally just had with you and calling me an imbecile over and over again, you’re going to find out that you actually have to articulate something rather than just being performative outraged.
oh my fucking god. did you want to talk about the dogwhistles at all? did you want to address the NSPM-7, or the revocation of licenses across different states? Did you want to address how multiple trans ppl, myself included, have told you how your words directly impact them, and you don’t give a fuck? Yeah, I’m calling you an imbecile over and over again because I’ve fucking had it. You do this shit every fucking day dude, and don’t think I’ve forgotten about that “transgenderism” comment.
I literally said I support securing basic rights and dignity. If compromise toward achievable protections makes me your enemy, then you’re arguing purity politics, not progress. You bring up states doing revocations but won’t tell me WHICH states because I think you and I know both know what party controls those states. Don’t even begin to try and dress me down on my politics when you’re the one wants to see more needless fucking death of innocents just for the sake of mental clarity.
oh my fucking god. try to avoid the point any harder and you might break your fucking neck. did I say that it was happening in dem states? No, but I did mention the fucking dogwhistles and adoption of the same ideological oppression, I wonder why you refuse to address the lemkin institute already classifying us in the early stages of genocide.
that’s why you have to misrepresent me in order to defend yourself, I didn’t advocate for fucking needless death you utter dipshit, I advocated for the same fucking treatment the world gave nazi germany it’s not my fault that YOU don’t fucking think genocide is worth going to war over anymore. It’s one of the few fucking justifiable reasons for war: combatting oppression.
or do we need to go back to this question: were the deaths that occurred under world war 2 “needless” in your eyes? If not, what difference is there between those deaths occurred under fighting Naziism and genocide, vs the deaths that theoretically would occur under fighting Zionism, white supremacy, and genocide?
You’re trying to invent a nonsensical position. The United States didn’t go to war against Japan and Germany over genocide. Japan attacked us to prevent us from using our navy from stopping them taking our overseas colonies in the Pacific. Germany was an ally of Japans and declared war on us for the sake of it.
you can’t answer the question because it fundamentally destroys your argument; and you’re incorrect. people heard rumors and had some sort of understanding prior to 42, but 1941* is when confirmation via hard evidence was received by allied leaders. 44* is when the public mostly gained that evidence, despite still denying most of said evidence (hence why the US never joined, until we were directly attacked; and why there were a lot of Nazi sympathizers here)
There was credible evidence of Nazis shooting USSR civilians and soldiers, not genociding Jewish people like you’re trying to let on to believe. There were rumors…but rumors are fucking rumors and if you think that’s a cause for committing your entire nation to war, then you’re fucking insane. Your historical facts are bullshit because you think we went to war over genocide and we didn’t.
you DONT think that another country committing genocide against its own citizens and citizens of surrounding nations is cause for war? And no, I didn’t say genocide was the only reason why we went to war, but by the time the United States joined, the allies were entirely aware of genocide, and THE ALLIES DID NOT STOP THE WAR UNTIL THE THIRD REICH AND ITS GENOCIDE WAS ENDED if you want to insist that the genocide was utterly meaningless in world war 2, that’s on you.
You keep laundering your fantasy of invading multiple nuclear-armed states through WWII analogies. The Allies didn’t launch a humanitarian police action because they “heard rumors of genocide.” They fought a world war triggered by expansionist states. You’re retrofitting history to justify a reckless crusade you already wanted.
that’s why you have to presume that I said that the allies went to war over genocide in order to defend your own bullshit, instead of just answering the actual fucking question: is ending genocide worth going to war over? you always talk so much shit about other people assuming positions when that’s all you fucking do, you little coward.
Why bring up WW2 then? Lol you most definitely did. You tried to launder the fact that since the Nazis we’re killing Jews, that was enough of a reason for us to go to war, which again, is you trying to abuse and weaponize historical facts and piece them together to fit into some fucked up conflict that you fantasize about.
give me a receipt then, since I’m able to for you. you incorrectly assumed my reasoning for bringing up ww2, which is fucking ironic given how much you complain about other people assuming your positions; which I honestly feel like is pure projection. you’re a disingenuous shithead, and you still refuse to say whether you think fighting genocide would be a just cause to go to war over; why is that, aside from you not giving a fuck about genocide?
I specifically and repeatedly stated how what I advocated for, that UN-led coalition, was inspired by our allies-coalition in ww2, and how that is what I was essentially trying to advocate for in response to modern day Israel and the US not only in this thread either, the other post too.
switched right off the topic of ww2 after you couldn’t find a receipt confirming your assumptions huh? like I said in the other post, ideally in my hopeful plan, the US would have veto rights (and hopefully membership, along with Israel and other guilty member states) revoked Or an entire new alliance could form. I personally believe that genocide is something that needs to be stopped, before the victim demographic is destroyed. do you share that view?
you need evidence to claim it’s a viable solution, not your own fucking coping and delusion. we have evidence that genocide can be stopped via war, and how violence is sometimes necessary to dismantle systemic violence, but you’d rather insist that the victims just essentially sit through it as they have been for decades?