
of course you’re not a hate filled religious nut but you’re standing side-by-side with them, aren’t ya? 😐 i also have an MA in Education and going for my DET. both of us SHOULD know what nuance is and how to remain unbiased. your bias is extremely apparent. i hope you are never anywhere near children or learning adults who are immigrants. they do not deserve to be taught by someone who inherently sees them as subhuman criminals…
Point out to me where I called them subhuman criminals. I work in a university setting now but I have worked with kids in the past. I have no idea of their immigration status because it’s none of my fucking business I believe that people need to be held accountable for their actions. US citizens or not. To me, accountability for sneaking in illegally is deportation. Sorry not sorry
You realize that they are going after people here legally, right? with all the paperwork, all the proper documentation, some of them even US Citizens and they’re taking children, separating them, or taking the parents and leaving behind the children to fend for themselves. when detainees are released, they get nothing but the clothes on their backs. no ride home, many are in entirely different states… I read the entire thread. the context of which exposed your bias; immigrant = criminal…
False. I never said immigrant = criminal. In fact I’ve made the distinction of ILLEGAL several times. Maybe that’s what you inferred, but it’s not what I implied. And I think you might wanna think about why you inferred that. Maybe you’re the racist one because you seem to think illegal criminals = brown people
i mean, they’ve detained multiple U.S. Veterans, a corrections officer in Maine despite identifying himself as such, attempted to detain local police officers which forced them to out themselves as such while they are undercover… i don’t know that you fully realize that they are not going after immigrants with criminal records: they’re going after ANYONE who is immigrant adjacent or looks like it. don’t even get me started on what they’ve already done to our indigenous communities…
you realize i’m not quoting you when i describe your bias, right? … like yes you never explicitly said that but that sums up your whole argument… you think everyone they’re arresting are undocumented, and you think that makes them a criminal. in reality, it’s just a misdemeanor like a speeding ticket in civil court. but they are taking DOCUMENTED immigrants, their children, they’re taking US citizens, veterans, first responders, and more… it seems you lack that context of the situation here.
Yes, I understand that mistakes are being made. I argue that much less mistakes would occur if the local government cooperated and assisted. And you really don’t see a problem with the fact that sneaking illegally into a country and mooching off its citizens taxes is worse than driving over the speed limit?
you fully do not understand that undocumented workers, even with an ITN, do not receive any tax benefits. a friend of mine is a DACA kid and has had to pay $1.5k every two yrs since he turned 16. he’s worked incredibly hard at multiple jobs and pays taxes on his paychecks. he doesn’t get any benefits like SS, Medicaid, SNAP, or much of a tax return. Immigrants provided $96B to the government in taxes in 2022, which they do not see a dime of in benefits.
again, i truly fully understand that you do not have any skills in looking at this from an unbiased perspective. you’re unbothered by veterans being deported, although they fought and risked their lives for this country, some of which even became citizens through their time in the service. you won’t understand until it happens to you. you won’t believe it will happen to you until it does… which is a shame.
DACA recipients are not illegal immigrants. I could be wrong, but I don’t think so. There are ways to be in this country as a legal non citizen. I respect your friend for doing it the right way and I’m sorry if he’s facing hardship right now. Don’t expect me to feel bad for the people who sneak over the border and kill people like Laken Riley, Edwin Jackson, or Rachel Morin
How many times do i have to say it—they do not care about documented or undocumented!! If ICE gets their hands on my friend, he’s going to be disappeared and taken to a detention center in a new state where he will endure ungodly conditions and his life will be at risk. ICE is literally snatching people at the courthouse who are there to report as they are legally required to do so and even those being SWORN IN as citizens, bc they spent decades doing it the right way!! Did you know that?
Just because you’re saying it doesn’t mean it’s true. My boss’s husband just became a naturalized citizen and has his ceremony a few days ago and there were no issues. And they’re gay so according to you, they’d be targeted especially. So actually because of this one experience that happened to someone I know, I’m gonna choose to believe I know everything that’s going on all over the country. That’s how you sound right now
You don’t have to believe it. Go read about it. Go listen to testimony from multiple released citizens who were kidnapped and sent to a detention facility in a different state. Read about how 2025 had the highest number of deaths in ICE custody in over two decades. Read about Kasper Erikson. Look further into the massive Kilmer Abrego-Garcia case. Do all of this in an academic fashion so as to make critical thinking a key component of your research. Get informed on both sides, man. I’ve done it
I’ve done all of this. It is you who has not. You have a degree in education. You should be excited about learning more, let alone to do it to dunk on the libs at the bare minimum. I’m all for a good-faith debate and it’s one of my favorite things to do bc it’s essentially a two-way street on education if everyone is willing to listen and be open to new information & jointly learning about the subject being discussed. You don’t seem willing to learn with me.
I never directly insulted you, unless you think saying “Your bias is extremely apparent” is insulting… I also described your bias as an assumption that all undocumented immigrants are criminals, and hoped that you were never in a position of authority amongst immigrant children or adult learners. You also started off this thread admitting to being the “side that ragebaits” and being on the “winning” side… but i still proceeded in good faith.