Anonymous #2 1w

Trust me, they’ll whistle a very different tune if even 1/3rd of the population said they weren’t going to vote or pay their taxes until something is done. The people in power will remain in power if you keep playing the game. I understand your fear, that’s why we need solidarity in freedoms fight.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Violence is the solution when civil disobedience has been tried. The people in power benefit from you voting and contributing to the system. But if a large amount of population didn’t vote, that system would fail and jeopardize the legitimacy of the power of the government. If the people give you the power, and no one votes, then who has power?

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Anonymous OP 1w

No, in Ireland an enormous amount of people vandalized their ballots because the conservative candidate wasn’t even on the ballot and the election stood

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Anonymous OP 1w

The government takes people’s money outside of just generally paying taxes. What realistically will happen, is people who don’t care about your opinion will continue to vote and get what they want because they don’t have opposing votes to counter them. And the people who do listen will have to watch their values get eroded because they chose not to engage in ANY voting processes

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Anonymous OP 1w

1/3 of people already don’t vote

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Anonymous #4 1w

And I bet that 3rd pays their taxes too. So they are contributing to the system. You have to do both in order to create civil disobedience, defacing ballots is a decent idea, but I don’t think the issue comparable because people do not directly vote for the act that called for the release of the files.

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Anonymous OP 1w

The boomers who slurp up everything Fox and the Pedos tell them, aren’t on yikyak or x to hear about or join the revolution, and show up to vote at a >95% rate. I’m with you, voting is NOT enough and there is more that needs to be done, but it would be foolish of us to not take advantage of the only method we are given to hold politicians accountable. Also, your original post didn’t even call for violence, just for people to not vote. Your post will be seen almost entirely by young,

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Anonymous OP 1w

How about this, if you’re willing to show right now that you’re not voting AND not paying taxes at all then I’ll join you.

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Anonymous #3 1w

left-leaning voters, and encouraging them to withhold their vote directly serves MAGA/Trump’s interests.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Well I’m not paying taxes, and the last election I voted in was the last election (Kamala Harris). Not sure what you’d want me to show you to prove that, but I appreciate your support. Spread the word, it helps.

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Anonymous #3 1w

I was responding to your image because “firebomb a Walmart and then not firebomb a Walmart”, Violence misses the point most of the time. Plus, very few people are willing to give up their lives in a revolution scenario unless the situation is very dire or as I stated, civil disobedience has been tried and failed.

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Anonymous OP 1w

No, you saying it isn’t proof. Show proof you’re not paying any form of tax on anything. You want support but aren’t willing to show that you’re serious.

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Anonymous #3 1w

There are people on the right who also want justice for the victims of Epstein, and only vote trump to keep their party in power. Not all republicans are MAGA, but they aren’t helping the problem for sure.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I mean I’m sorry but I’m not going to show you my documents lol, We pay taxes on grocery and other goods because we have to. I don’t have property or anything that I file taxes on.

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Anonymous OP 1w

you’re still paying taxes because you HAVE to? Why don’t you just stop?

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Anonymous OP 1w

When you get a job the taxes are taken out of your paycheck before you even get it

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Anonymous #2 1w

Also, solidarity is more than just one person. There are others who have shared their agreement with this type of disobedience and movement. However, it will take more than just one person or a handful of people to get the movement going. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and the French didn’t overthrow Louis XIV because of one night. It took time, and spreading the word to get more people convinced.

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Anonymous OP 1w

You’re saying you’re contributing to the system you want others to stop contributing to.

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Anonymous #2 1w

You’re acting like unless I’m homeless and jobless I’m not serious. Please read my other comment, you can’t actually think that the beginning of a movement rests solely in the hands of one person.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m not saying that or implying that. I’m asking you why you don’t just stop paying taxes entirely? You’re telling other people not to contribute when you’re actively choosing to contribute.

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Anonymous #2 1w

If I stopped contributing now, nothing would happen. But if me and a large amount of the population who agrees with the movement, all at once, stopped contributing to society at a planned time or moment. Something would happen. Have you ever heard of the term “general strike”?

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Anonymous OP 1w

LMAO my comment was so fitting 😭

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Anonymous #2 1w

You are quite literally saying that, it is impossible to live without buying goods or working because that is the current system we live in. You do realize the French were still buying goods and contributing up until the night of the revolution right?

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Anonymous OP 1w

So to be clear, you’re completely okay with contributing to avoid any potential risk while telling others to risk their safety by not paying ANY taxes?

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Anonymous #2 1w

I never said that, we have to contribute because we have no choice. I don’t have the money for land, nor have I any to inherit. So I can’t grow my own food. I don’t have land to harvest resources, so I must buy manufactured goods from the store. All of which are taxed. The system we live in, is designed to punish those who live outside of it. In a solidarity movement, the not paying taxes part would not come till much later. Otherwise it’ll be snuffed out before it can even begin.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m not asking you to suffer alone. I’m asking you to stand by the values you represent and do the things you’re telling others to do. Which isn’t a big ask. Why is a movement only possible if other people do what you want before you do?

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Anonymous #2 1w

Did you even read my comment? I’m not saying for people to do that now, maybe I should’ve been more clear. We live in a system, that is designed to punish you if you do not contribute. Me, and many others like me, do not have the land/resources to safely live off grid or not contribute to the current system. In order to get to a point where we can safely disobey, we would have to have solidarity. There are many avenues that can take, but as for now, spread the word and begin preparations.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Your word is “don’t vote” You’re on YY, the stage you have and influence you carry only serves to hurt people who have genuine values

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Anonymous #2 1w

What does this comment even mean? I plan on posting this on other sites, not just YY. I plan on doing some research and gathering the thoughts in a more coherent and straightforward manner. My word isn’t just don’t vote, it’s more complicated than that. We shouldn’t have to suffer in a system that punishes you for not being fortunate. I don’t know what “genuine values” you are referring to, but I think the idea that everyone should have food in their bellies and a roof isn’t extreme.

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Anonymous OP 1w

That’s literally your word. Not everyone is going to read a comment thread.

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Anonymous #2 1w

That’s not my word, and you don’t know what people are going to do. So stop putting words in my mouth and simplifying my statements into obscurity. I’ve explained myself enough to you.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m not putting words in your mouth. you said “don’t vote” That only harms the small minority that you think will listen to you.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I said the goal is to not vote, to breed change. You are putting words in my mouth. These thoughts are not just my own, there are many others who agree with me. You are wrong.

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Anonymous OP 1w

No you didn’t. I’m not putting words in your mouth. Your post literally says “Don’t vote” There are many people who agree with what the Trump regime is doing, does that make them right?

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Anonymous #2 1w

People followed Hitler, does that make him right? What a stupid question.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yeah, what a stupid point to bring up that people agree with you, so what? Why do you keep crying about me “putting words in your mouth” when I repeated that your post literally says “don’t vote”

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Anonymous #2 1w

I said that the movement would take time to get traction didn’t I? The not voting part wouldn’t come until later, it is literally common sense. If you don’t have land or resources can you eat? Have shelter? Have the means to spread your message? You are just stupid, there is no other way to put it. You sit there and repeat the same thing over and over and over again as if I have not explained it to you multiple times. You’re wrong.

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Anonymous OP 1w

You’re wrong You’re crying because I pointed out that your position is inherently flawed, you keep calling it a movement but realistically what you’re advocating for is just the harm of minorities at the expense of their capacity to engage in the system. Do you truly want me to explain why the position is flawed? I will happily educate you. I didn’t ask you if the movement would take time, if people agreeing with you doesn’t make you right, why did you bring that up, you moron?

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Anonymous #2 1w

Every time you post a comment the national IQ drops by 10 fucking points. I am convinced you have read nothing I have said to you, you keep going on these fantastical rants that keep walking away from the points I’m giving you. I never once mentioned minorities, what the actual fuck are you talking about? You are a moron and I am shocked you can even type without the aid of a handler. Please sit down, and stop desperately trying to climb your soapbox, stfu.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Not surprised you didn’t understand what I said. Comprehension doesn’t seem to be your strong suit. Didn’t answer, try again.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 1w

Well there probably are ways to work within the current system, but regarding recent events (Epstein files) the weakness of our system is showing its ugly head. Why does voting matter if our voices aren’t heard? I voted in the last election and guess who won? The person who outright told America what they were going to do and how he would be petty and corrupt the government as punishment. So you can call me a dumbass all you want, but at some point we have to realize that these billionaires dgaf

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Anonymous OP 1w

I fully agree, our system is seriously flawed, and this whole thing with the files makes it clearer than ever. Obviously the billionaires don’t give a single fuck about us. And I know it’s hard to see how our voices matter when we’re in the middle of something like this. But the perspective of “just don’t vote” is exactly what led to this. Plenty of people, something like a third of the population iirc, didn’t vote at all bc both candidates sucked. And bc of that, bc they weren’t willing to work

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 1w

the system from the inside, Trump won the vote. Many of us saw what he was doing. And many people, friends of mine included, thought the best form of protest was to abstain entirely. But that only succeeded in fucking us more. The only way to fix the system is to force it from the inside

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