Anonymous #1 19w

Same lmao

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Anonymous #2 19w

At this point they are one in the same tbh

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Anonymous #2 19w

no they’re the same. conservatism is fundamentally evil, and unless you’re a billionaire it’s also irrational.

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Anonymous #4 19w

So fun fact, you’re the problem

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Anonymous #2 19w

No it’s you actually. Your ideology is fundamentally sociopathic. MAGA just drops the veneer of respectability, which is why it upsets some conservatives who in practice are fine with what he does if not for how uncouth he is about it.

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Anonymous #4 19w

No, Maga is different from conservatism. Different values and different beliefs. Did you ever think for a moment that maybe we don’t like it because we don’t agree with it? Your worldview is inherently undemocratic because you think half of a political spectrum is inherently evil, whereas I can at least admit that while me may disagree, you’re not evil.

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Anonymous #2 19w

Imo conservatism is an outdated ideology. The key foundation of conservatism is preserving traditional social orders and institutions. This is inherently bad because the current US system is flawed.

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Anonymous #2 19w

Yes I think liberal democracy is fundamentally doomed so long as there are millions of fools like you, who are the obedient slaves of the capitalist class. The only difference between MAGA and ordinary conservatism is that MAGA is brash and impolite. Everything else is basically the same, the bigotry, the murderous contempt for the poor, the warmongering, the blatant lawlessness and corruption and so on. Ffs the core tenet of the Republican Party is at this point, pedophilia.

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Anonymous #4 19w

So basically what I’m hearing is that anyone who disagrees with you is a bigot and a sheep. Sounds like a perfect showcase of liberal democratic principles to me (note the sarcasm). Jesus Christ, dude. Go outside and talk to people. I guarantee there are conservative people in your life that you’d never know because they hide it from you (because you think like this).

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Anonymous #4 19w

Like I can guarantee you that I am not a warmonger, nor do I hate poor people, nor am I a pedophile, but at this point I don’t think anything could convince you of that because you’re so far down the rabbit hole. I sincerely hope you find help for the hate you hold in your heart.

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Anonymous #2 19w

well yes becuse the things we disagree on are the humanity of people who are different from them, and whether or not our society should worship the rich people that own our society. this isn’t based on my opinions or my feelings, this is literally just based on what their political beliefs and policies are. there are conservative people in my life (unfortunately), they’re kind of terrible people (racist ass relatives)

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Anonymous #4 19w

So funny thing, you’re describing the exact difference between conservatism and Maga. You and I can both agree on the common humanity of people different from us. You and I can both agree we should not worship the rich, and of course, that we should not be racist. I am sorry you are surrounded by racists, but please don’t blame the rest of us for the poor decisions of your relatives.

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Anonymous #2 19w

do you vote for Republicans? becuse if you do, you are in fact all those things. I don’t really care what you personally believe in your heart, I care about the consequences of your actions, so if you vote for the party made up of pedophilic warmongers who want poor people to starve, then you’re a bad person in my book. like sorry yeah I’m gonna have hate in my heart for the people literally raping my country and the entire world to death.

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Anonymous #2 19w

except that’s not true because 40+ years before Trump’s candidacy, the Republican party already hated minorities of all kinds, already worshiped the rich and demonized the poor and so on. The fundamental values of the Reagan era and then Trump era are exactly the same, the difference is that the people in power are so stupid that half the time they shoot themselves in the foot.

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Anonymous #4 19w

I have voted Republican in the past, but I look at policies and relationships for every single vote I cast. If they’re racist or if they are sexist or if they hate trans people I don’t vote for them. I don’t vote Maga. In the last election cycle I voted about 70/30 Democrat/Republican because I liked the Democratic candidates better for the most part during that cycle.

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Anonymous #4 19w

You and I strongly disagree on the fundamental values of conservatism. To me, conservatism is individual liberty, limited and decentralized government, 2A, lower taxes, along with other things (too many to name but those are the big ones). The people you see hating minorities are themselves the minority within conservatism. We don’t agree with them nor do we associate with them when we discover their beliefs.

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Anonymous #2 19w

yeah you’re just wrong about what conservatism is actually about. fundamentally it is just about preserving hierarchal power. that’s it. the stuff about individual liberty in particular is nonsense, because American conservatives have been responsible for basically all the most authoritarian things our government has ever done. they want a “limited and decentralized government” for people who fit within their small category of “real Americans”, and a brutal police state for everyone else.

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Anonymous #4 19w

Hating on minorities has been a primary part of the GOP platform and rhetoric for literally 50+ years.

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Anonymous #4 19w

No, I’m pretty sure I mean what I say when I want a limited government. You think I like the gov coming into our lives all messing things up all the time?

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Anonymous #2 19w

What the person is saying is that regardless of your beliefs, the party yiu identify with take actions that contradict what you claim you want.

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Anonymous #3 19w

Please point out where I said I identify with the Republican Party.

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Anonymous #3 19w

Where, exactly?

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Anonymous #2 19w

When bro said he has conservative people in their life who aren’t good people you said “don’t paint us all like that.” Just assumed based on that.

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Anonymous #3 19w

Yes, I said conservatives. Conservative is a political leaning. It is not a party.

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Anonymous #2 18w

Hey so conservatism falls under Republican umbrella.

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Anonymous #3 18w

This is true that many conservatives are also Republican. However, you falsely stated that I identify with the Republican Party, which is not the case.

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