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I love how the left thinks excusing communism in history as “not real communism” is a good argument. If they can’t even get the practice rounds right, the “true” version sounds like an utter global humanitarian disaster.
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Anonymous 11w

It’s sounds like a cop out argument but genuinely there is no way you can call a state that produces commodities (in the strict sense), private companies, and banks a communist country. Having capitalists is not the definition of capitalism, but like it might as well be

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Anonymous 11w

Real leftists don’t fall for CIA funded propaganda. Communism is a stage of socialism that has yet to be achieved. Real leftists defend current and past socialist projects. They’re all real socialism

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Anonymous 11w

i am on left and am against communism, at least as it has been practiced in the past. I don’t get why people use this narrative to try to say socialist policies are bad tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Always the people with zero connection to it. Go to Poland and tell them how much you love socialism and see how funny they think you are.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11w

Most ppl in the USSR preferred socialism to capitalism, idk what you’re talking about

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

I love being downvoted for real life experience I have. Yeah I’ve studied in Poland and quite literally all the USSR generation alive fucking hated every bit of USSR being shoved onto them. Like, real people say this. They host tours of their (failed) socialist projects as a reminder of how awful it was. They don’t refer to The Palace of Culture and Science in Warsaw as “Stalin’s Dick” to be complimentary.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11w

Oh so you’re like at least 50 years old? Interesting, I didn’t know we had old ppl like that here

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Anonymous 11w

You’re just talking out of your ass. All studies show otherwise

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

I’ve talked with 50+ year old Polish people who’d call you crazy for wanting that voluntarily

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

The only Eastern Europeans missing the USSR are speaking Russian in Donetsk

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Anonymous 11w

No your personal anecdote doesn’t supersede the actual research done on this

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Anonymous 11w

Nice try I’ve been to 10 countries with plans to visit many more. I don’t even go on Reddit, isn’t that like a right wing cesspool now? Why would I go on Reddit

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Anonymous 11w

Ew why would I go to those ugly countries. The only “UK” I’m been to is the north of Ireland. How would I visit the USSR if it doesn’t exist anymore? I’ve been to Russia and China tho

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Anonymous 11w

Absolutely. These people think they’re being oppressed by a fascist government while openly criticizing them. Something definitely not possible during the USSR days. Spoiled brats really. I used to consider myself pretty leftist in college when I was studying this—my major was political science in fact which is how I got all the Polish political exposure—and the experience I had there was pretty eye-opening so it’s not like I’ve always been biased against them.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Go to Poland right now, ask them how they feel about the drones on their border.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

I’ve been to Poland, too

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

You’ve gotta be kidding me if you’re seriously saying Reddit is a right wing cesspool 😂 Try posting a pro-Trump comment in r/politics or even r/news

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11w

Whenever I go on there it’s capitalism and America apologia everywhere I go. Those fuckers are proud of being moderates, it’s crazy

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Do you support Russia or Ukraine?

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

Neither

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

So you don't support past socialist nations?

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

I support them against anti communist propaganda but no I don’t support any capitalist governments

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

I honestly think you're just ideologically weak if you'll support Leninist and Stalinist USSR but not modern day Russia

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

I’m guessing your main source of info is from some leftist political influencer who tells you what to think, only made possible due to the free market

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

Why would I support a capitalist country? As a socialist?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11w

Nah I just read bro

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

They kept the same totalitarianist ideals and kept killing people at the hands of the state, gotta count for something.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

Totalitarianist ideals 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Yeah such as killing political dissidents and going to war with smaller nations in your sphere of influence

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

Yeah sorry I don’t subscribe to your idealist framework. That’s not how the world actually works

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Boiling idealism down to a lack of totalitarianism is such a beautiful way of making my point for me

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

I don’t think you even know what idealism means. You’re the one literally citing ideals instead of material reality..

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

You're literally saying that the ideal solution in governance is to just remove totalitarianism, but pretending as if this can't be achieved in real life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

That’s not what I’m saying, I was laughing at you using that fed ass term lmao. again you don’t know what idealism means😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Are you arguing that promoting totalitarianist ideals isn't a material reality? This seems like a very pedantic thing to get attached to

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Anonymous 11w

I wouldn't be shocked by that, but I wouldn't be arguing in good faith if I put that assumption over what I've been told by them either.

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Anonymous 11w

Beijing, Chongqing, Shanghai and Chengdu

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 11w

holy shit, no. It flew over your head. Study historical materialism and then come back to me

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Whats your point then?

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Anonymous 11w

Sorry unfortunately i only know English, conversational Spanish and a little Irish

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Irish like Gaelic? How do you know that?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

That’s an outdated term. There is more than one Gaelic language. It’s just called Irish (in English). Or Gaeilge in Irish. And bc my brother and I paid for a class to learn and we’ve spent months in Ireland, collectively. Unfortunately I didn’t take it as seriously as my brother but he’s almost fluent. It was important to us to try to decolonize our language in tribute to our ancestors who were forcibly banned from speaking their own language in their own country

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 11w

Socialism leads to communism anyway, so…

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