Anonymous #1 1w

I mean they were literally bombing Lebanon well after the “ceasefire” and before this. Just like how they continued to kill Palestinians despite the ceasefire in Gaza. Ceasefires with Israel are one sided

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Anonymous OP 1w

I wonder if the terms of said ceasefires have anything to do with that hmmm…

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Anonymous #1 1w

Are you saying that there was terms in the ceasefire that allowed Israel to keep bombing & killing people in Gaza & Lebanon during the ceasefire but not vice versa?

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Anonymous OP 1w

The side with leverage got the better end of the ceasefire agreements that yes, allowed them to continue bombing if there was non-compliance. Hezbollah did not disarm and leave from southern Lebanon and the terms of the agreement explicitly allow them to continue to bomb until they do

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Anonymous #1 1w

I mean the UN & French are saying Israel was the main culprit as far as breaking the ceasefire continently. Also I thought Israel had to withdraw from Southern Lebanon while Hezbollah had to withdraw from north of the Litani River which is located in Southern Lebanon but I don’t think that mean all of Southern Lebanon

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Anonymous OP 1w

Also I mean Israel is literally an apartheid state committing a genocide & constantly doing illegal land grabs

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Anonymous OP 1w

Israel had an agreement with Lebanon. Disarm Hezbollah and remove them from the south, and if you don’t they will continue to attempt to do it themselves. Those were agreed upon terms. It did not happen, and Hezbollah started firing at Israel after the Iran war started. Who exactly gives a shit what the French have to say?

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Anonymous #1 1w

I mean the French AND THE UN make it sound different & I bought them up because as we know neither are known for being extremely pro Lebanon, Hezbollah, or anti Israel. Also I’ll taking it as yes we are ignoring the fact that Israel is an apartheid state that’s committing a genocide & constantly doing illegal land grabs.

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Anonymous OP 1w

The same UN that’s had peacekeepers there for 50 years yet couldn’t do a thing about the empowerment of Hezbollah against the Lebanese government’s own wishes? As well as UN resolution 1701? So Israel is supposed to handle the conflict exactly like the UN tells them to when they don’t even do it themselves? And somehow all of that is supposed to supersede an explicit agreement between two sovereign nations?

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Anonymous #1 1w

I mean Hezbollah wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for Israel. Also I didn’t realize Israel is forced to be an apartheid state that’s committing a genocide. Or that Israel is forced to continually do land grabs.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Hezbollah exists because the Shiites as a minority need to militarily dominate the Sunnis to have any power. They are just another branch of the Iranian regime. Israel just happens to be the more powerful threat to their Islamist theocracy, they’ll go on back to focusing on oppressing the Sunnis once they rid the area of Jews. And what Israel is or isn’t has nothing to do with an agreement made between sovereign nations. If Lebanon has such a problem they wouldn’t have agreed to such terms.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Got it so even if Israel didn’t invade a force like Hezbollah would have ultimately came into existence. Idk your argument reminds me of Jacob that one settler from NY who was stealing an old Palestinian lady’s home in the West Bank & when she told him that’s her home that he’s stealing he replied with “It doesn’t matter because if I don’t steal it someone else will” Also I think it matters that Israel is an apartheid state that’s committing a genocide & constantly doing illegal land grabs

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Anonymous OP 1w

Those are the actions of a country that’s not serious about the sovereignty of other countries. So their claims hold less weight especially when they contradict of other nations outside of the region who are their allies

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Anonymous OP 1w

If my argument reminds you of that line completely unrelated to anything I’m saying then I have no idea who you’re talking to cuz it can’t possibly be me. You’re talking as a completely disconnected 3rd party, if the Lebanese government felt the same way they’d act like it. But they don’t. So it’s great you’re not in charge of their foreign policy

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Anonymous #1 1w

I think they along with many other in the region & even the west would act very differently if it wasn’t for America going out of its way to protect Israel not only with & through weapons & the iron dome but also by constantly vetoing anything voted on & decided by the UN, sanctioning the International Courts, going after individual judges to get them removed etc

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Anonymous OP 1w

Cool opinion, but not relevant because that’s not the reality we live in. And Lebanon has wanted Hezbollah gone themselves. And if you think somehow the Sunni vs Shiite rivalry will end if America just wasn’t involved you’re flat out wrong. As evident by reality as well. If a country is not allowed to vote out of their own best interest then why have votes at all?

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Anonymous #1 1w

I mean the U.S. actions & how it shapes the region aren’t an opinion it’s a fact the U.S. does all the things I mentioned for Israel. As for the Lebanese people yeah Hezbollah is pretty popular among Shia Muslims but not crazy popular with most other groups in the country. But the one thing that is popular with all groups is the country is opposing Israel& their actions in Gaza along with the rest of the region. I don’t think it’s up to Israel or the U.S. to decide or intervene in Sunni vs Shia

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Anonymous OP 1w

If the Sunni opinion is “kill the Shiites and also Israel” and the Shia opinion is “kill the Sunnis and also Israel” then yeah, I think it actually is Israel’s business to do something about it. You say taking the land isn’t helpful, but to Israel if it means no more Islamists sending missiles into their country, that sounds pretty helpful to their best interests to me.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Gotta so you’re claiming that Israel is an apartheid & doing a genocide & constantly doing illegal grabs for protection. Crazy I’m pretty sure Hitler said the same thing. He just had to do all his actions to prevent the Jews from ruining society. Insane how history rhymes. Also I mean you can’t invade countries, steal people land, and enact an apartheid & just except them to take it. Violent actions & resistance is inevitable under those conditions.

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Anonymous OP 1w

There’s a reason Israel is so unpopular not just in the Middle East but around the world now & only growing more unpopular by the day. The vast majority of people see through the bs & only Zionist still claim that Israel is acting in self defense or good faith

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Anonymous OP 1w

I really have no idea who you’re talking to, because half the things you keep saying reflect nothing of what I said and have nothing to do with it either. Every country in the world with a military has claimed to use their military for self preservation and necessity. If you disagree with the premise of a country existing you’ll always argue that what they do out of necessity isn’t necessary

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Anonymous OP 1w

But you do not live in reality if you don’t expect a sovereign country to fight back. Same way of course I’d expect Lebanon not to be happy about losing more land, nor about Syria losing the Golan heights. But if you fight, you risk losing. It goes both ways. You just hope Israel loses, and they’ve yet to

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Anonymous OP 1w

Israel being unpopular in the Middle East is vastly different than why it is in the west. In the Middle East it’s because it’s Jews surrounded by Muslims. Simple as that. The recent western turn on Israel is a completely separate and more complex discussion

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yes everyone makes that claim but let’s be real a system is what it does not what it claims it does. The same applies here with military action. Like yes Hitler can claim the Nazis acted in self defense to protect themselves from Jews who they claimed were destroying society. Yet we can all openly say that it was an obvious lie. As for your statement that’s just a lie. The Middle East doesn’t hate Israel because it’s full of Jews. They hate Israel due to the illegal land grabs, invasion,

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Anonymous OP 1w

And genocide. I remember watching a interview a long time ago with someone in Palestine saying “I don’t hate Israel because of the Jews I hate them because they destroyed my home & killed my family & I’d hate any Arab that did the same” idk seems pretty reasonable to me. As for the West it’s not that complex either Israel recently became super unpopular & hated because many people learned they are doing a genocide which most people view as bad that simple. Not to mention many people view

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Anonymous OP 1w

Israel has having too much say & control in what happens in America & view common sentiments in Israeli society very negatively.

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Anonymous OP 1w

With a ceasefire in place, Hezbollah sent hundreds of rockets into Israel. Not because Israel attacked them, but because they are a rogue force in Lebanon acting on behalf of a foreign nation against Lebanon’s best interests. Are you really trying to argue otherwise? Even the Lebanese government claims this. So long as that is true, it is factual that retaliation is in Israel’s interest of national security. There is no Hitler comparison. You’re forcing something that isn’t there.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Individuals who are affected by the conflict may have other reasons for hating Israel, sure. But the official platform of Sunni terrorists like ISIS are against Shiites and the Jews. Same with the Shiite regime of Iran for the Sunnis. They literally chant “ya yahud” — “the Jews” not “Israel”

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Anonymous #1 1w

It was a one sided ceasefire considering all the innocent civilians Israel killed during said ceasefire & now Hezbollah decided to join in on the war that Israel stared & convinced Trump to take part in. I mean Israel is a modern day Nazi Germany. Like Germany they are doing a genocide along with illegal land grabs so the reference works again there’s a reason why not only the Middle East but most of the world now hates Israel now.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I mean ISIS doesn’t represent the views of the region. Again most people in the region surprisingly don’t like their homes being invaded & stolen or families killed it’s that simple. You don’t magically go from having approval around the world to in a few years time becoming hated & increasingly unpopular magical

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Anonymous OP 1w

“It was a one sided ceasefire” yeah no shit bud. And both sides agreed because it was in each’s best interest. That’s why they agreed to it. It’s called leverage. That’s life. Don’t call for a ceasefire if you don’t want a ceasefire. Just go out and say “keep fighting” if that’s what you want, but it’s extremely privileged to do so from the safety of your home in the west

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Anonymous OP 1w

Israel is at war with Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Iran. That’s both Sunni and Shiite extremist groups. “Representing the views of the region” doesn’t matter when there’s bombs raining from the sky. When you want to fight, there will be war. And when there’s war there will be winners and losers. Simply put, you don’t get to involve yourself into a conflict and then beg the other side to lay down their arms when you’re losing.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Either fight till the bitter end or save yourself and agree to the lopsided terms and live in relative peace

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Anonymous #1 1w

First of all I’m not your bud so don’t call me that. I would never be buds with someone who supports, denies, or underplays apartheid & or genocide. Also Israel has the privilege of my tax dollars & that of everyone else this country keeping them safe & afloat & the lives of our troops so you can chill. Yeah obviously you support a one sided ceasefire and call living under foreign occupation or fear of invasion & genocide relative peace.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Lucky for us enough countries were forced to stop Nazi Germany & doesn’t have the same attitude that you do regarding Israel

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Anonymous OP 1w

A ceasefire between 2 foreign nations is quite literally what prevents occupation and “fear of invasion.” Notice how Egypt and Israel don’t fight anymore? Israel and Jordan? Because they signed a treaty and abide by it. You can go down the route of diplomacy or you can fight. Either or. But you cannot call for diplomacy and then flip flop back and forth between it and launching rockets. Or you can! You’ll just get your shit rocked, as evident by, once again, reality

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Anonymous #1 1w

Insane that you used Egypt as a positive example but not surprising since you’re literally arguing might is right politics as defense for Israel’s genocide, apartheid, & illegal land grabs. After Egypt elected their first democratically elected there was a coup that installed Sisi which the U.S. & Israel supported Sisi since he does whatever Israel & the U.S. tells him. Dude is a dictator but at least he’s pro Israel so of course you support it

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