Anonymous #1 3w

(I honestly just wanted an excuse to use The Peak reaction image please do not assault more verbally ((im kinda into that though so up to you)))

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Anonymous #1 3w

so im a white woman myself and being that we still have some privilege in a society where nonwhite women do not, i feel like it’s us that need to address this. history shows how white women weaponize their whiteness against black people. yes im bi, but even being part of lgbtq+, there is still blatant racism amongst white members of the community. in a white supremacist society, even the white oppressed groups still weaponize their whiteness.

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Anonymous #2 3w

generalizations are useful. You sound like one of the "not all men"'ers

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Anonymous #2 3w

white people will use their whiteness when backed into a corner, but we can deconstruct that! the first step is to call out others instead of ignoring it, and continuously addressing it. keep the conversation alive. the right wing propaganda machine is working overtime in this country. it’s too many white women justifying racial slurs when having a bad experience with a person of color. we can admit white women victimize themselves look at “subway queen” or the spice king incident.

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Anonymous #2 3w

idk why cishet white women, and the white gays and lesbians get defensive when we want to bring up the privilege their whiteness still brings them.

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Anonymous ittibittikitti 3w

it’s exactly like “not all men” or “all lives matter”

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Anonymous scooby.doo 3w

Lmao that’s a good reversal I’ll give you that. What if I told you I’m not hetero, nor am I white? Then am I allowed to say that it’s untrue that all white hetero women will always put their whiteness before their gender?

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Anonymous #2 3w

Like I get the upvote farming appeal of the sentiment but if we’re being genuine I think we can acknowledge that it’s less than fair to act like everyone is in need of learning lessons that you’re happen to be learning yourself rn, people vary greatly

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Anonymous #2 3w

so what are your thoughts on on men saying “not all men” or white people saying “all lives matter” because im intrigued. there are situations where generalizations are useful. it’s not unfair to generalize white people in a society built on white supremacy.

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Anonymous scooby.doo 3w

I think we should be able to separate social media zingers from the more nuanced truth we can all see. Yes generally speaking those things are true, but why not sharpen your statement and say some women have a problem with this? How are white women who are aware of this dynamic supposed to react to this? They’ve been thinking about this, but now that you’ve started to we gotta act like they need to be told that their whiteness gives them privilege?

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Anonymous #2 3w

If we want change maybe meet people where they are and don’t start by berating people for their identity, that kinda think only pushes people right. I’m super left btw, this rhetoric just gets old. ‘If you are xyz identity then you aren’t doing enough to address the sins of your demographic’ how do you know they aren’t? They aren’t a monolith

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Anonymous #2 3w

You not being white doesn't change anything. Our arguments are not based on who you are

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Anonymous ittibittikitti 3w

The original post is. It says ‘if you are xyz demographic then you act in this problematic way. You don’t view yourself as equal to other women’. How is that not based on identity?

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Anonymous #2 3w

I meant to say this argument does not change based on who YOU are, in response to you saying "what if I'm not white 🤪" as if that's some sort of gotcha

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Anonymous ittibittikitti 3w

It seemed like op was saying “white people will use their whiteness when backed into a corner” to refer to me, saying that I was the white person backed into a corner, that’s why I mentioned my own identity. Could’ve read that wrong tho so you could be right

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Anonymous #2 3w

If you feel threatened when a generalization refers to you, that's you projecting. As a man, when I see people make a statement like "men are violent pedophiles" I do not feel threatened and know they're not talking about me, bc honestly a lot of them are and I know we live in a society that rewards and even encourages that behavior among men

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Anonymous #2 3w

So if you are a white woman and you see someone talking about white privilege or generalizing about the behavior of your demographic, stop and think to yourself "what is this generalization based on?" and "does it include me?" before you step in to defend white women everywhere

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Anonymous ittibittikitti 3w

It’s not projection at all, this statement doesn’t refer to me or my demographic. It bothers me because OP is simultaneously saying that they themselves are aware of the privilege that white women have while claiming that all white women (besides presumably themselves) aren’t aware of this dynamic and need to be scolded over it. The message at the heart of the post was a good one but the rhetoric it is wrapped in is dishonest and counterproductive.

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Anonymous #2 3w

Just completely ignored my comments. Gotcha. Have a good one

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Anonymous ittibittikitti 3w

For safety reasons it makes sense to assume that men are dangerous, it is statistically true that significant portions of them are. What’s the utility in acting like no white women besides OP are aware of white privilege? Or that none of them are currently working to address it? How does this framing help anything?

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Anonymous #2 3w

Especially when you could avoid the issue by simply editing the statement to add a “some white women”, which does accurately describe the real problem op is getting at

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Anonymous #2 3w

Bro that ittibittikitti person is insane 😭 And not the “I don’t like their views” insane, but they’re just a batshit person.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 3w

Yeah, they deleted all their replies and OP can’t explain herself either, I don’t think it’s a very serious post

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Anonymous #2 3w

if you know history you should know white women are dangerous to people of color and they are justified to believe that. white woman tears can mean state sanctioned execution to a black person. and all white people including white women participated actively and violently during slavery. saying “some white women” would be a gross understatement.

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Anonymous scooby.doo 3w

I’m aware of the history, lots of people are. What’s irritating about your post and subsequent replies is that you are acting like you are the only person with that knowledge. Not only that, but that somehow your posts failure to account for nuance is somehow justifiable because white people have been responsible for lots of atrocities. I don’t argue that they aren’t; doesn’t change the issue with your post

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Anonymous #2 3w

“Some white women” is much closer to reality than “all”, it also sacrifices none of the meaning of the important point you are trying to make. What white women think they’re superior to non white women? Some of them. Who should we address when talking about the issue? Some of them. What’s gained by acting like all white women are unaware of privilege?

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Anonymous #2 3w

i feel like you think because white women aren’t as openly racist as white men that it’s only some of them. there’s open racism and subtle racism, and if you live in the south you will see that there is still A LOT of openly racist people. whites in the north are more liberal, but their racism manifests more subtly and indirect. both are harmful. i live in knoxville tn and there are so many white people (men and women) who use the N word like nothing.

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Anonymous scooby.doo 3w

Do all white women view themselves as unequal/superior to minority women? Yes or no?

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