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While not acceptable- at some point violence is the only outcome that will arise from a violent occupation and genocide being enacted upon you HAMAS was inevitable, just like how 9/11 was bound to happen. The aggressor is the one who should be reined in
Hot take: Both Palestine and Israel have killed innocent children…Why don’t we reprimand both countries? No matter how bad you’re being attacked, you never kill innocent children
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Anonymous 1d

I agree. It’s similar to gang violence in the “us vs them” way

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

I don’t think it’s a surprise the situation we’re in. These two countries are in a gang war. “You killed my grandfather so i’ll kill yours” mentality and now it’s to the point where children are being killed. Numbers matter but at the same time, one innocent child dead is too many.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

And no one has stepped in. The US is a bit incapacitated at the moment but no other rich nation is stopping the bloodshed. The death of these children are on all our hands until we elect more capable leadership.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

My point is that HAMAS existing is inevitable and won’t go away until their reason for being stops existing. There’s no “punish both sides”, there’s only immediately stoping the conflict Otherwise, there will only be more aggression and this time, it’ll be at whoever “punished” them

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Oh nations have stepped in, including the US. The US is one of Israel’s greatest supporters in this war

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

We literally saw this post WW1, where Germany was reprimanded heavily and pushed to more radical measures, leading to WW2

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

No yeah. I agree. I feel like we’re arguing the same thing. HAMAS lives because their opposition lives

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Yet at the end of the day we can agree both what the nazis did (despite their reasoning) and despite the killing of innocent children in gaza (despite their reasoning) is wrong.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

My point is that reprimanding is what is gonna make Nazis again Populations tend to accept more radical violence the worse their economy is, and Palestine will already be suffering.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

…So you think we should just let things play out like we did with the second WW? Or do you think we should be harsh enough on the people killing kids so it doesn’t become another WW? I think we should help the people that want to be helped.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

I think we should demand a ceasefire first and foremost, and then we can decide what occurs. In which Israel will break that ceasefire, as they are prone to do, and there will be then clear justification to “reprimand” Israel. Or arrest Netanyahu because he is a legit war criminal

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Idk. I just feel like anyone that killed innocent children should be held accountable. No matter what clan they belong to. I would love to see the leaders of both parties be seen as war criminals

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

It’s like how I think Americans that killed innocent kids in WW2 should’ve been held accountable. Even though technically they were on the right side, killing innocent german kids wasn’t right

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

No matter what you believe I don’t see how you could justify protecting anyone that had a hand in killing innocent kids

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

counting or not counting

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 23h

Because America shouldn’t be judge jury executioner of other countries

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 22h

No country should be allowed to be judge jury executioner…

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 22h

Yes, which is why ceasefire is the only real option

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 22h

I’d agree with you if we lived in a world where the current leaders were actually competent. I don’t disagree with your optimism I just don’t think it’s an actual realistic solution given how personally involved many leaders are. Unless there’s a benefit to ending the war, I don’t see many other powerful countries upholding a punishment for the country that breaks the ceasefire (we know who)

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