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And they scream at Mamdani for being tangentially associated with Hasan piker

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Supporting Israel is killing America
71 upvotes, 10 comments. Sidechat image post by stoner22 in US Politics. "Supporting Israel is killing America"
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Anonymous 20w

Tangentially associated with radicals?! His wife literally liked posts celebrating the actions of Hamas terrorists on October 7?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

The Zionists are the radicals in the situation bro

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

The post is claiming that Mamdani isn’t associated with radicals, when his own wife clearly is one bro

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

Refer to my previous comment

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

Care to explain it? Because Zionists are a very large group. There are definitely radicals like Ben-Gvir, but the vast majority are not.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

The modern version of Zionism as perpetuated by the Israeli government is an extremist, supremacist, settler-colonialist ideology, which has repeatedly engaged in genocidal behavior and apartheid rule of occupied territories

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 19w

Let’s go through this point by point, shall we? First, Zionism is not extremist. Zionism is defined as the belief that the Jewish people constitute a nation, and have the right to self-determination in their historic homeland. This principle is not unique at all, as many other nations (Greece, Ireland, Armenia) have done the same. The Zionist ideology also compromises ALL THE TIME - the 1947 Partition Plan (granted both Israel and an Arab state in modern Israel)

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 19w

1979 return of the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt. 1993-95 Oslo Accords framework. And every potential two-state solution, which Israel agreed to, and the Arabs did not (look them up). Doesn’t sound very extremist, does it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 19w

Next, supremacist, which is defined as the belief that one group is superior to another. Zionism believes in Jewish self-determination, but not Jewish superiority. It’s literally in Israel’s Declaration of Independence - “complete equality of social/political rights for all inhabitants irrespective of religion/race/sex.” Israeli Arabs enjoy full equality, as they vote, serve in government and courts, and hold literally every job. A supremacist state would never allow any of this.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 19w

Last part of your first point, settler-colonialism - which needs a mother country, settlers acting on their behalf, economic extraction to the mother country from the new territory, and permanent political dependence on the mother country. There is no mother country for Israel, as Jews came to modern Israel from all over as refugees. Also it was never colonialist, because Jews originate from the Judean region (modern Israel). This is non-disputable by anyone. Doesn’t sound settler-colonialist…

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 19w

Let’s go the “genocidal behavior”. This is just false, as no genocide is taking place. It. Is. A. War. Israel has the manpower to turn Gaza into a parking lot in minutes. However, they do not. They target terrorists, who often hide in civilian outposts to try and use human shields. Israel warns the civilians (leaflets, radio, etc.) to evacuate areas which are to be bombed. Hamas, their government, then tells them to stay put.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 19w

For reference, in the Holocaust, the Final Solution (gas chambers) were implemented for only around 3-4 years. They murdered over 3 million people in those chambers. It is estimated 75,000 people have died in Gaza in almost the same period of time. If it was a genocide, shouldn’t it be higher? Their population is certainly high enough for that. Make it make sense.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 19w

With “apartheid rule”, I assume you are referring to the West Bank. I already showed you earlier that Israel proper is NOT apartheid. Israel acquired the West Bank after 1967 war from Jordan, and has repeatedly tried to give it back in treaties. Jordan has refused many times. The one time Jordan tried to take in some Palestinian people directly following the war, they separated themselves from the Jordanian government and led a revolt against it. Jordan would win and exiled them.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 19w

Cope

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 19w

Many of those terrorists fled to Lebanon, where they directly led to the current terrorist party, Hezbollah, over there. Israel now retains control over that territory, and sent soldiers to outposts to make sure terrorists did not try anything in Israel proper. However, in the late 20th century, an Israeli movement grew to try and take part of this land, since it was part of the ancestral homeland of Israel. After much conflict, Israel and the PLO (West Bank government) agreed to Oslo Accords.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 19w

This created 3 areas of the West Bank. Area A would be governed by the PLO, Area B would be governed by both the PLO and Israel, and Area C would be governed by Israel. This is how it currently stands. However, the PLO still has a “Martyrs Fund” which pays their terrorists (and their families posthumously) to run into Israel/Area C and murder Israelis. On the same page, there are some radical Israelis who want to annex all of the West Bank and take the entire territory, such as Ben-Gvir.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 19w

Bro can’t handle facts 💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 19w

No I’m not reading allat

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 19w

Maybe that’s why you have the braindead takes that you do my guy

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