Anonymous #3 21w

If socialism is what the population wants, then in a democracy, that’s what the population should get. You are anti democracy Also if we are talking about “uninformed masses” then people from red states shouldn’t be allowed to vote since red states have worse educational outcomes 😉

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Sorry to hear the news of your brain tumor

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Anonymous #6 21w

If the population wants mass suicide and you deny it, that’s not being “anti-democracy” for the sake of it.

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Anonymous #3 21w

Then maybe socialists should take over the country. You can move to russia if you hate it here so much.

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Anonymous #10 21w

They have more power via the EC bruh

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Anonymous stoner22 21w

Round them up into one city and put poc in the rural areas

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Anonymous #3 21w

Trying to find a fault in a pure national popular vote. No winner take all an electoral map would essentially just project who got the most votes in that state. Everyone says huge population centers would hold more sway but if literally every vote was equal I fail to see the flaw. It makes no sense for like 7 states to hold the whole election in their hands

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Anonymous OP 21w

You can’t see fault in letting the majority rule over the minority?

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Anonymous ___joker__ 21w

It’s not ruling over anyone, it’s democracy dumbass

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Anonymous ___joker__ 21w

The majority deciding what’s happen within the limit of the constitution is what a fucking representative democracy is.

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Anonymous OP 21w

It is, you stupid fuck 🤣 you said PURE NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE. If a majority of the fucking country is racist, what does that mean for the fucking minority who belongs to said race the majority hates? This is the easiest thought experiment in the world yet you don’t want to own the fact that majority rule doesn’t mean morally correct rule.

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Anonymous #11 21w

Oh wow! Sick clarification! It’s a good thing no one is talking to you?

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Anonymous #11 21w

“Guys if we just let everyone vote equally than what the majority of people want will happen” Yea that’s the point

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Anonymous #11 21w

You want a sick as fuck realistic example that will make you squirm? Trans rights.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 21w

Dude I knew you were a normielib but simping for the electoral college is just fuckin sad. We have a constitution. The point of the constition is to limit what is and isn’t allowed to become law. Plus the electoral college has mostly been a vehicle for implementing systemic racism. Like that’s kind of why it exists, to protect the interests of slave owners.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 21w

And how has the electoral college done with regards to trans rights? Oh yeah it made it all way worse by getting republicans elected. Giving rid of the electoral college doesn’t mean giving rid of constitutional rights.

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Anonymous #11 21w

Surely a majority of people don’t support laws requiring trans people to use bathrooms corresponding to sex assigned at birth, right? Surely a majority of people don’t support requiring trans athletes to compete by sex assigned at birth, right? SURELY RIGHT?!?

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Anonymous ___joker__ 21w

The majority of people can be dipshits and that’s still better than elections being decided by a few thousand suburban white swing voters in the Midwest. What the fuck is your point here? Do you think the electoral college has made things better for trans people and minorities? It’s demonstrably done the opposite.

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Anonymous #11 21w

Quote me where I defended the electoral college lol

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Anonymous #11 21w

Also, thank you for conceding to my point! The majority of people can be dipshits. Wow! Who would have thought that a majority of people, who are uninformed cattle, would march you right into the ocean if it meant a couple dollars off their income tax.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 21w

You should have specified that under a post that’s about the electoral college, dude

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Anonymous #11 21w

You mean the same post that said “a national popular vote would be cool”?

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Anonymous ___joker__ 21w

Yes? That’s how you would elect the president without an electoral college? Like dude I get what you’re saying I guess it was mostly in response to 6 but like this is a dumb hill to die on. Minorities should be protected. But 3 was shitting their pants about economic equality.

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Anonymous #11 21w

I don’t think anyone here thinks that elections should work in a “if 51% of people vote to kill the other 49% we do that” system

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Anonymous #10 21w

Do you think white people are all republican orrrr

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Anonymous stoner22 21w

The pot still frying your brain I see.

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Anonymous #6 21w

You are correct, which is why I’m extremely happy the US isn’t a democracy! I am anti democracy, and pro democratic republic. Ooo are you saying you’re for restricting voting for the educated only? As a somewhat-technocrat you may be onto something… I’d never live in a backwater red state 😂

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Anonymous #3 21w

There’s absolutely no way you believe the majority of Americans are socialists

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Anonymous #13 21w

At the moment, no. But I’m seeing a disturbing trend among the young.

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Anonymous #3 21w

Damn maybe we should create an economy that works for them or something

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Anonymous #13 21w

Sure, but socialism isn’t the answer

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Anonymous #3 21w

And what is?

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Anonymous #12 21w

Cheaper real estate through natural market forces and government reform

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Anonymous #3 21w

Obviously. But when every example of using tax dollars to benefit the working class is labeled as “socialism,” it’s no wonder a growing number of young people, who’ve been left behind by the economy, claim to support “socialism.” Really they support social democracy, like most wealthy democracies.

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