Anonymous OP 1w

Sparks Middle School (1 death, 2013), Marysville-Pilchuck High School (5 deaths, 2014), Umpqua Community College (9 deaths, 2015), North Park Elementary School (2 deaths, 2017), Marshall County High School (2 deaths, 2018), Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School (17 deaths, 2018), Santa Fe High School (10 deaths, 2018), STEM School Highlands Ranch (1 death, 2019), Saugus High School (2 deaths, 2019), Oxford High School (4 deaths, 2021)

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Anonymous OP 1w

Robb Elementary School (21 deaths, 2022), The Covenant School (6 deaths, 2023), Michigan State University (3 deaths, 2023), Perry High School (2 deaths, 2024), Apalachee High School (4 deaths, 2024), Abundant Life Christian School (2 deaths, 2024), Annunciation Catholic School (2 deaths, 2025), Brown University (2 deaths, 2025) I’m sure there is more I’m missing

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

Do you think we’ll see meaningful change on this in our lifetimes OP? Part of me thinks It’d be impossible for this to just continue the way it is for 80 years but I also have no clue what would make people change is this hasn’t already

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

Our issue is the Australian gun laws would be deemed unconstitutional here (and similar attempted laws have been). And there’s no fucking way we will get enough politicians (federal and state governments) to amend the constitution

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Anonymous og_beer 1w

Yeah I sadly agree with all of that. Same question for you then tho, do you think we’ll just keep having daily mass shootings for decades to come? Like do you see that changing at all? If so, how?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

The biggest thing is state sponsored mental health campuses. Overall crime rates will decrease, from both petty citations to violent crimes. We need a system of support. Well funded, well staffed, and wide range of resources to help a huge spectrum of people. Daily care, work programs, or long term supportive care.

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Anonymous og_beer 1w

Yeah I’m all for that, it seems like something republicans would never go for but compared to messing with the 2nd I’d agree it’s likely much more palatable.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

Have you seen anything like this implemented anywhere? I’m curious if anyone has studied the impact in a country with lots of guns like ours

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

Tbh the people I see fighting for this the hardest in my area are cops/state law enforcement agents. Advocation can come from the most unexpected places. You just gotta get the word out and communicate to people effectively, reaching them at their level.

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Anonymous og_beer 1w

I mean that makes a lot of sense to me, they’re having to deal with the people that the system fails. However ik politicians of both parties like to show a pro cop face but are the police as a voter block or influence group really that significant?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

These don’t exist in a wide scale capacity (and probably never will) bc of the remnants of deinstitutionalization movement. Underfunded asylums did a ton of damage. People are (rightfully) terrified of anything that resembles one, globally. Not just here. Privately available centers exist. But they still face lack of funding and overworked medical staff

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

Being pro police is less of a targeting the police as voters and more targeting their constituents by pretending to care about their safety and push responsibility of public safety entirely on the police force, and not their own policy and ability to do good in their jobs. Lawmakers love to blame executive powers when they fail to produce legislation that matters (we saw this with roe v wade especially)

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Anonymous OP 1w

Guns were not allowed at any of those schools. Gun control prohibited every one of those shootings and prevented none of them. The problem isn’t that it wasn’t illegal enough, it was that nobody was there to kill the shooter in 5 seconds before they could do any real damage (and the fact that basically all of them were on anti-depressants and raised by single mothers. Bet you can’t find 2 counterexamples this century in the US).

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Anonymous og_beer 1w

Yeah good point about the police thing. Sorta reminds me of politicians who were hypercritical of police failures but then did nothing to increase funding for more training and market power to hire better cops and fire the bad ones.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

And I agree that people are going to be very wary of any sort of government sponsored mental health campus’s, especially if some residents are held there against their will. However that sort of brings us back to the top and that things just might never change. Which again I find unlikely, I just can’t fathom what would be enough to create change and what that change would look like

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Anonymous #4 1w

We don’t really have meaningful gun control in the United States. We have a patchwork of local laws that are sometimes enforced and sometimes not. If you pair that with the fact that anyone can carry a gun into or out of those zones with tighter laws then it means that we have essentially zero gun control laws with teeth.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

There’s also countless instances of these shootings happening regardless of there being plenty of armed good guys on the scene. The truth is that the best prevention is to keep guns from being fired in schools in the first place.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 1w

And if you want proof of that you can look at every other first world country where school shootings aren’t routine

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