Anonymous #1 7w

Heavier policing in high crime areas

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Anonymous #1 7w

Along with social programs to promote meaningful labor, family values, and higher education in those same areas

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Anonymous #2 7w

Gun control works well in Mexico then I presume?

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Anonymous OP 7w

It’s kind of hard to when 70% of your guns are coming illegally from the USA

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Anonymous #1 7w

So you would agree that the problem is more-so due to criminals illegally using or selling firearms than legal gun owners?

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Anonymous OP 7w

Not at all, it’s because there are too many fucking guns

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If they're a government building of any form they should have high protection, airports aren't necessarily high crime areas either.

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Anonymous #1 7w

What's your solution to the proliferation of firearms then? I seriously doubt you are going to get 106,000,000 people to willingly give up 400,000,000+ firearms (that's only counting the serialized ones too)

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Anonymous OP 7w

It requires heavy cultural force as well as a tiered buyback program. Other countries have done it

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Anonymous #1 7w

Even then, the biggest massacres ever have been committed by government against disarmed subjects.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Strawman much?

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Anonymous #1 7w

Are you not arguing that gun ownership is less important than people's lives?

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Anonymous #1 7w

I apologize if that isn't what you meant but that's what I had gleaned from it.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Your entire premise relies on the assumption that having more weapons made for killing people = a safer population. You’re also trying to put words in my mouth and act like some saint who cares about people’s lives when in reality you care more about tools used for killing. Thats just wrong, dude.

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Anonymous #1 7w

Yes I do, and if that were false then we would be seeing the worst massacres in history perpetrated by civilians in a country with relatively little gun rights infringement. Instead, we have seen the worst massacres in history perpetrated by government in countries where the government restricted the right to bear arms from their subjects.

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Anonymous #1 7w

Guns also have a number of other uses besides killing people such as movie production, setting off explosives for demolition work, hunting, sport shooting, getting rid of all my old electronics in the middle of a desert, etc

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Anonymous OP 7w

The worst massacres in history have been committed during wartime by military forces against foreign military forces and civilians. I don’t disagree that populations have a right to defend themselves against oppressors and that guns have more than one use but in a regular, peaceful society it’s very silly to think that somehow having more guns makes everyone safe

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Anonymous #1 7w

It's extremely silly to think that a "regular peaceful society" can or will never go to war or be oppressed, I would argue that it is a lot sillier than preserving the right to bear arms in a peaceable state.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Crazy fucking idea but have you ever thought that “less guns” doesn’t actually mean “no guns”? You really like speaking in terms of black and white huh

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Anonymous #1 7w

I would assume it means restricting the types of weapons available and/or requiring some form of licensure or permit to own purchase or manufacture them, let me know if I'm mistaken

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Anonymous OP 7w

and to that I would say, if I can't trust you with a modern firearm, the only place I would truly feel safe near you is through a prison glass window.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Oh wow that’s a great idea, let’s just put everyone who we don’t want to have guns in jail 🙄 One minute you go on about how everyone needs to have guns to be safe from authoritarian oppression and the second you’re saying this? Dude this is embarrassing

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Anonymous #1 7w

Yeah, if you're going to cause harm to me the second you have access to a firearm, you should be in jail. You are a present danger to society.

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Anonymous #1 7w

Or at the very least you should be institutionalized in some form

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Anonymous OP 7w

You want your tax dollars going to the very thing you claim to fear 💀 straight up delusion

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Anonymous #1 7w

I don't claim to fear people being arrested for threatening others with guns because my guns have never and will never be involved in such activities

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There are no states with no gun laws

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But regardless, you would agree that the issue then is people trafficking arms and not your average firearm purchase?

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Thats patently false, there is nowhere in the United States that you can legally walk into a store and buy a gun with no NICS check.

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You also have to sign a form 4473 which is given to the feds when the gun store closes.

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I'm gonna go by abortion standards here and say if you don't have a gun, you shouldn't have an opinion on gun law.

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Anonymous OP 7w

wheres the 93% number from

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Anonymous OP 7w

me when im in a most unhelpful person in the world competition and i see you competing

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Anonymous #4 7w

Go scour gunfacts.info

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Anonymous #4 7w

I'm not trying to prove the statistic

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Anonymous OP 7w

nothing for 93% comes up or for obtained illegally. you got nothin?

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Anonymous OP 7w

not beating the "most useless person in the world" allegations with this one

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Anonymous #4 7w

Didn't I already link you directly to the ATF trace data that says this?

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Anonymous #4 7w

I don't really trust your ability to go through the whole page that quickly if you weren't willing to do so with the direct data given by the government

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Anonymous OP 7w

never beating the completely useless allegations

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Anonymous #4 7w

Go find the data yourself if you care that much bud

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Anonymous OP 7w

hopelessly useless allegations stay undefeated

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Anonymous #4 7w

I am not going to hold your hand for the entire process, I trust you can use the internet.

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Anonymous #4 7w

If you can't, you don't belong in this discussion

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Anonymous OP 7w

what entire process youre too unhelpful to have acknowledged there is any process

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Anonymous #4 7w

The process of finding the data you're looking for genius

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Anonymous #4 7w

I'm done with this game

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