Anonymous #1 3w

Yes, and genocide is inexcusable but some people choose to carry water for it for some reason

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Anonymous OP 3w

Who’s excusing genocide

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Anonymous #1 3w

OOP

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Anonymous OP 3w

That’s me. I’m not. I look at the root to figure out how to solve a problem. I already said that doesn’t mean Russia is free from criticism. They’re still capitalist, ofc there’s plenty to criticize. NATO and the US is the root of all this and they need to deescalate and withdraw

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Anonymous #1 3w

“Guys Russia was forced to invade and massacre civilians. If its satellite states enter a defensive alliance how is it supposed to bully them whenever it feels like it? The world is so mean to poor Russia.”

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Anonymous #1 3w

Is that the only criticism? They’re capitalist?

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Anonymous #2 3w

Russia didn’t invade, they are defending themselves from nato aka US aggression and invasion 😭

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Anonymous OP 3w

No…. Far from it

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Anonymous #2 3w

If you’re “threatened” by states near you entering a defensive alliance, that means you planned to attack them. And guess what? If you’re trying to stop a country from joining NATO you *dont* need to try to annex it. That’s just Russia being imperialist. Same thing they did in Georgia.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Yes or no, is Russia committing genocide?

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Anonymous #1 3w

“Russia didn’t invade” lol what is it supposed to be a picnic?

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Anonymous OP 3w

No

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Anonymous #2 3w

It’s called self defense

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Anonymous #1 3w

Forcibly adopting kids (when they’re not killed) and Russifying them is self-defense?

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Anonymous #1 3w

Since when does self defense include attacking someone who didn’t attack you first and actively annexing parts of that country. Unless you’re referring to the good ol Israeli method of “self defense.”

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Anonymous #2 3w

Mfw I self defensively attempt to annex a country and deny its existence as an independent nation. Is Trump gonna be self defending us from Greenland and Cuba soon?

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Anonymous #1 3w

Russia Funded literal paramilitaries to start the Donbas war. Continued suppling separatists, which also lead to an airliner being shot down. Weird hill to die on.

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Anonymous #3 3w

https://cejiss.org/exploring-russia-s-postponed-war-against-ukraine-a-corpus-based-analysis-of-strategic-studies-institutes-publications-from-1991-to-2014 Here’s a little to read for you as well.

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Anonymous #3 3w

Incoming “noooo that’s a state department source”

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Anonymous OP 3w

Fr 😭

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Anonymous #3 3w

Bro reading TASS everyday I bet.

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Anonymous #2 3w

It’s literally a defensive alliance created specifically just to agitate Russia and nearby communist countries?? That region of Ukraine has always identified with Russia and communism more…. NATO violated their right to choose their own form of government

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Anonymous #2 3w

They did attack first tho, you’re not going far enough back in history. You can’t just go back to 2022

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Anonymous #3 3w

You have it backwards

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Anonymous #1 3w

Yes Russia is abducting children from Ukraine and bringing them into Russia as self defense lol

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Anonymous #4 3w

Again I never said they were free from criticism or have gone about it in the best way…

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Anonymous #1 3w

Where you wanna start in history? Specifically to Agitate? Cold War era politics and fear of an expanding Soviet State and their suppression of actual revolutionary movements. It was an alliance to create a collective security between independent states in Western Europe. Defensive in nature. Again, Russian Funded Militias. 😭

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Anonymous #1 3w

In any case their “self-defense” has gone nowhere. Sending thousands of soldiers per day crawling thru an oil pipeline to their doom..it’s madness

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Anonymous #1 3w

Yeah all you said was that Russia is targeting Ukrainian kids because of NATO aggression. That’s genocide but you denied that they’re committing genocide

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Anonymous #3 3w

“Soviet State and their suppression of actual revolutionary movements” This is why I can’t take yall seriously. it’s all just US funded red scare boogeyman shit. Not gonna fall for it Oooh and the poor Western European countries need all the help they can get, makes sense

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Anonymous OP 3w

Deporting kids to Russia, adopting them, stripping them of their identities, and Russifying them is a genocidal act

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Anonymous OP 3w

No, I said the ROOT cause was NATO aggression and therefore it’s why in order for anything to change NATO needs to stand down and stop their aggression I can’t believe supposedly political literate people still support NATO 😭

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Anonymous #1 3w

The thing about NATO is that it’s a voluntary alliance. It’s not NATO expanding, it’s Russia’s neighbors running away from Russia

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Anonymous #1 3w

A situation that will happen in our hemisphere if we continue to threaten and aggress vs South America

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Anonymous #1 3w

1948 Czech Coup was Red Scare propaganda? 😭 1956 Hungary? Czechoslovakia 1968? Everyone in 1989? 😭 Bro reaching for straws of Self-Determination with Russian Proxies, but then denying the right of nations to join an alliance of their own accord.

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Anonymous #3 3w

Might wanna read this too. ~Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between NATO and the Russian Federation.~ “…territorial integrity of all states and their inherent right to choose the means to ensure their own security…”

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Anonymous #1 3w

You interpret the expansion of a defensive alliance into the general facility as aggression? Gee I wonder why Ukraine and Georgia feel afraid of getting invaded hmm. Do you view soviet support for socialist governments in the Americas as a form of aggression? Would a Bay of Pigs on steroids be a valid “defensive act” in your mind? You claim to support self determination until Ukrainians decide they don’t want to align with Russia anymore.

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Anonymous #2 3w

A “defensive alliance”… is that a joke?? And it was literally the other way around dude, they identified more with the Soviet Union and now Russia than the Ukraine in that region

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Anonymous #1 3w

“In that region” gee it’s a good thing Russia respected the wishes of the rest of Ukrainians and only “military picnicked” those majority-Russian regions and didn’t try to invade Kyiv and the rest of Ukraine… wait shit nvm

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Anonymous #2 3w

Bro’s all about self determination until it’s the entire rest of the country which was also invaded

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Anonymous #1 3w

I should point out that, unlike the USSR, Russia could have been on track to NATO membership eventually. They were part of the Partnership for Peace program and had a joint NATO-Russia council for cooperation. Putin was interested in membership in early 2000s. Obviously, this didn’t pan out, and relations worsened when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014. But, like, it wouldn’t have been impossible.

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Anonymous #5 3w

The war was ultimately caused by multiple factors, and the potential expansion of NATO to include Ukraine is one of them. Russia wanted a “buffer state” between them and NATO. But at the same time, however, the war was caused by other factors too- Internal Russian politics meant Putin wanted a rally around the flag effect from the war, and he also had his own personal ambitions. And considering Russia’s actions, Ukraine was probably correct to seek membership in NATO!

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Anonymous #5 3w

Also, like, the NATO thing is more on the practical side of “what caused the war”, not the moral side of things. It certainly doesn’t justify attempted invasion and annexation.

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