US Politics on Sidechat | It pisses me off when I see tankies advocate for a Chinese invasion. I’ve actually been to Taiwan and I’m currently planning to go back. It’s a real country and real people live there, it’s not an abstract concept. War would be devastating for them.

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US Politics 42w

It pisses me off when I see tankies advocate for a Chinese invasion. I’ve actually been to Taiwan and I’m currently planning to go back. It’s a real country and real people live there, it’s not an abstract concept. War would be devastating for them.

Anonymous 42w

If I had a dollar for every time a current day superpower split into two, with the more nationalist, capitalist side taking the South and declaring their own independence to run away from the consequences of their own actions, while still claiming to be the legitimate government of the nation despite seceding, I would have two dollars, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that happened twice

Anonymous 42w

The people of Taiwan want to be left alone, and besides they have exponentially higher quality of life than the Chinese. The PRC should probably focus on their own problems, then maybe they’ll become a country the Taiwanese would want to be a part of

Anonymous 42w

So many internet discourses say shit like “it’s a breakaway territory of China”, as if the people of Taiwan have no capacity to decide how they want to live. They’re several generations detached from the civil war and have a fully sovereign government. You cannot advocate for anti-imperialism and deny the Taiwanese their right to sovereignty if they want it

Anonymous 42w

They honestly disgust me, completely out of touch people

Anonymous 42w

Anonymous

#5 42w

Taiwan never seceded. The island has quite literally never been controlled by the PRC and, while the government officially calls itself the “legitimate government of China” (because the PRC has threatened an invasion if they declare independence), most of the people view themselves as Taiwanese.

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Anonymous

#5 42w

The union was the capitalist side, the confederacy was explicitly anti-capitalist and made that clear. Read “Sociology for the South” by George Fitzhugh.

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Anonymous

OP 42w

They claim to be sovereign now. If they were part of China, and are no longer a part of China, without China giving them their independence, they had to split at some point. Just because they didn’t file the paperwork doesn’t mean they didn’t secede.

Anonymous

#2 42w

Both were capitalist, but the society where you can own people is undoubtedly closer to “true” capitalism than what the north had. Fitzhugh was simply upset that white workers were treated poorly, because workers were absolutely more exploited in the system where they had no rights and were regularly beaten and raped.

Anonymous

#5 42w

Considering that capitalism is a system based on voluntary exchange and private property rights for all, slavery is undoubtedly not capitalist. Fitzhugh understood this and made it clear he was against the principles set forth by liberal philosophers like Adam Smith and John Locke.

Anonymous

#2 42w

Capitalism is just a system with private ownership of the means of production. That’s it, using your logic we are an anti-capitalist nation today because we still use slave labor.

Anonymous

#5 42w

Sounds like you need to read some Adam Smith too