Anonymous #1 1w

Trump also corrupted every value the party said they hold. What the republican party says they believe, and what they actually do are very different. Pro constitution, limited government and whatnot, fuck yea! But their bite just doesn’t match the bark AKA bunch of fucking liars making money off of their base

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Anonymous OP 1w

Again - actions speak louder than words.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Not really. This is just code for “I like being racist and classist, but I don’t like how he’s saying the quiet part out loud”

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Anonymous #3 1w

Jesus Christ, bold assumption much?? I hate using it as a defense but I’m literally a gay man and am veryyyy liberal when it comes shit like that. I was republican cause I was one of those “socially liberal, economically conservative” fucks but the republicans aren’t good for anything at this point.

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Anonymous #3 1w

I hate to say, this typa shit is another reason I didn’t register democrat and chose independent instead. Just for having been a gay republican, I know how yall feel. Dems also haven’t done shit to fight trump, just “strongly worded letters”. So yea, combo of this attitude and the lack of action is why I went with independent

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Anonymous #4 1w

Recently it kinda has been the DJT party. Any republicans who disagree or vote against his bills are getting primaried and the party is supporting other candidates instead. Anytime I talk to someone and they hear I’m a republican who didn’t vote for trump, it’s a borderline argument. Donald trump has become the republican party IMO

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Anonymous OP 1w

That’s called make a new party that fits your beliefs!

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Anonymous #1 1w

The weird thing is that Trump commanded the republicans more in 2021-2025 more than Biden commanded the democrats. Thats not really a commentary on Trump, more so on how weak of a president Biden was. Same with Kamala, after losing she dropped off the face of the earth for a few months. Trump was still commanding the republicans after he lost.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I didn’t say anything about homophobia 😃 I don’t even know what that has to do with the allegations of classism/racism when white gays are the loudest classists and racists every time 😂 I also don’t know why you felt compelled to bring up the Democratic Party as though I pledged allegiance to them or something, just because you said YOU were a Republican lmfao

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Anonymous OP 1w

That’s the worst part, honestly. The GOP used to run on solid values but Trump has buried them and has turned it into a party of reactionaries. In turn Democrats became utterly spineless under his populism. What the fuck happened to politics actually

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Anonymous #3 1w

It’s a 2 party system, when someone shits on one party you assume they’re the other. If you couldn’t tell I’m new to the whole independent thing and am used to people always being one or the other. Good point that white gays are nasty, I agree and honestly yea using it as a defense was wrong I think I even acknowledged that in the comment. But I’ll ask, what’s your basis of me being classist and racist?

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Anonymous #5 1w

Honestly yea. It’s fucking sad to see. With my current views idek if I’d support older republicans, but at least they weren’t straight up evil for profit

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Anonymous OP 1w

“It’s a two party system” “I’m new to this (third party)” lol? Anyway, I know you’re racist and classist because the Republican party has been racist and classist for decades and you’re JUST bailing lmao. My point is, I don’t understand why you’re expected to get a round of applause for announcing that your high threshold for how much abhorrent policy you tolerate has been met and/or for figuring out something that everybody else has known for at least 15 years…

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Anonymous #5 1w

Mitt Romney was something

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Anonymous #3 1w

Like honestly what am I supposed to do? Send you my fucking savings account and explain how many black friends I have? There’s no winning against you. You have your opinions made up before you even commented. I’m happy with my decisions and I hope you have a decent day

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Anonymous #8 1w

yeah. Both parties suck now and every-time I vote I’m just desperately hoping the outcome won’t take more of my rights away.

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Anonymous OP 1w

what do you think “economic conservatism” is a euphemism for? republican economic policy 100% harms poor people and disproportionately harms minorities of all kinds. the racist social views and wanting to defund welfare and social services go hand in hand. ffs they argue for welfare cuts on the basis of racial stereotypes. fiscal conservatism is inherently socially conservative because it’s entirely about harming poor people and minorities

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Anonymous #4 1w

if you vote for any republican candidate, you’re backing Trump, because all republican politicians are on his side.

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Anonymous #10 1w

Like atp you guys are arguing with me just cause you’re mad over something you THINK and didn’t even actually see me say. You aren’t even reading what I say and just calling me shit

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Anonymous OP 1w

Mind you, I never identified with a party lol who is my candidate? And you didn’t have to say it; you pledged allegiance to political party that has been racist since the 60s lmao. YOU did that 😭

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Anonymous #3 1w

Do you wanna talk about politics and try to have an actual discussion or just keep saying shit? I’m open to discussion but idk if yall are

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Anonymous #3 1w

I GREW UP IN WEST VIRGINIA AND REGISTERED IN CLASS SURROUNDED BY MY REPUBLICAN PEERS! Honest to god wtf do you want? Should I shoot myself for you?

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Anonymous #3 1w

My post is me admitting I’m turning away from republicans and am clearly open to reforming how I was raised to think. Instead of even trying to talk to me you make it seem like the values I was raised on are ingrained into my soul and there’s no hope for me as a person. Like wtf is your point? You’re just being a dick?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Republicans have never actually been for limited government… they want a big government to bomb other countries and police the lives of citizens, and a small government when it comes to helping poor people and taxing their rich friends. Make no mistake, the only thing that is different between Reagan and Bushes vs Trump is that Trump doesn’t pretend to be decent or have morals. He and his people are more honest about how evil they are. In the 80s and 90s you had to present your racism in

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Anonymous OP 1w

But you’re not open to reforming lmao there is zero excuse for having been in the Republican Party after 2020😭 You might as well just stay in there atp lol those are your people😂 We know you hate black people, it’s fine

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Anonymous #10 1w

euphemisms, you talked about school bussing and ‘cultural differences’ and shit like that. It is once again becoming acceptable to just shout slurs and make claims about racial IQ differences. major media figures are now arguing we should just kill off various groups of Americans (currently all ‘illegals’ which is really all hispanics, and also the homeless)

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Anonymous #3 1w

God I fell for rage bait, didn’t I? I hope you choke tbh

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Anonymous #3 1w

Proud to announce I’ll be voting for trump in 2028 then ig

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m sorry for that asshole this is what gives the left a bad rap #3 is too wrapped up in identity politics it doesn’t matter if you’re a white guy if you’re gay or if you’re middle class as long as you aren’t a fucking billionaire there is no “bailing out” realizing that your party no longer stands for your beliefs is hard especially in a country where you a forced to pick sides you don’t have to be left or even liberal you just have to have compassion for someone other than yourself

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Anonymous OP 1w

Excuse you? Now you’ve escalated to wishing death on someone who acknowledged the obvious fact that if you were a supporter of the conservative movement, you’re fine with bigotry … yeah, you’re a conservative through and through

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Anonymous #11 1w

Identity politics? What? He was the one who said he was gay lmao

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Idc lol anyone who identified as a Republican after 2020 has shown what they’re willing to tolerate, and that includes racism, so don’t be shy; own it. What was that study about white gays putting “no blacks or Asians” in their dating profile bios? Yikes

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Did you genuinely switch up? I’ve been working bro and I came back to you saying you’re voting Trump 2028?😭😭😭

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Anonymous #2 1w

I did switch up I just can’t stand #3

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Anonymous #2 1w

Dean Withers moment (I knew he, like OP, had never really changed - felt super vindicated last week)

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Anonymous OP 1w

Oh okay so you’re just rage baiting with the voting for Trump comment?

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Anonymous #2 1w

Yea I’m pretty sure they’ve been rage baiting, it just took me too long to notice so I’m joining them

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Anonymous #3 1w

You think someone who identifies with the Republican Party at any point is racist sorry but you brought it up first just shut the fuck up

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Anonymous OP 1w

Okay I was like 😃 the second I saw that 😭😭

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Anonymous #11 1w

Hey so…that’s not what identity politics are, hope this helps❤️

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Anonymous #3 1w

That’s also not what I said, but I digress😃

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#11 just using words he doesn’t really know to defend you siding with racists and classists for an embarrassingly long period of time😂

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But you were, hence why you were a part of the Republican Party after they were platforming ethnonationalists and made man who was caught redlining multiple times their leader lol

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Anonymous #10 1w

Exactly

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Anonymous #6 1w

Or… you know… aligning with the existing political party that most closely matches to your beliefs.

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I mean materially speaking, there isn’t a point; Trump won the election, didn’t he? Whatever contribution you’re thinking you’re going to give is going to be too little, too late😂

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Good! Sounds about white

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I was never a part of the party that KKK endorsed, and had people calling Obama and Harris the n word. Too bad you can’t say the same thing lol

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Okay, you’re clearly coping

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Anonymous #3 1w

Genuinely I don’t agree with any of that, but you just be rage baiting shit so I’m giving it back to you

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Anonymous OP 1w

Baiting? That’d suggest what I’m saying isn’t true? You admitted you were aligned with the party that has elected officials supporting ethnonationalism? What about me pointing that out is bait?

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The point isn’t that the Republican Party was racist; the point is that you were in the Republican Party while it was racist and you were okay with it lol

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You left too late lol

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Right, you don’t have a real response because we both know 😭

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And it’s not surprising that you were okay with the racism given we’ve already established that your demographic likes to discriminate against black and Asian people

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exactly

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Anonymous #3 1w

Bro again, what do you want. I’m really close to blocking you which wasn’t the point of this post. What do YOU recommend I do to make amends for my past sins then? Should I have stayed in the party? Should I have left the country? What would YOU do

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Lmao I think it’s funny that you knew I was going to say I would have never joined the Republican Party 😭 imma still say it though because when I was 16 everyone I knew was conservative though? My family is still Republican and I never was because I knew they were racist (At 16) lmao there’s no excuse 😭

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Anonymous #3 1w

So either I’m some super genius who was just so much more enlightened (unlikely) or you just didn’t care that you were associated with bigots (likely)

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You can admit that you were (and still are) racist 😭 Acceptance is the first step to improvement

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You really never left the Republican Party though? You still have their values (racist, classist, anti-intellectual)

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That’s literally you? Pretending to have done all this “personal growth” like you weren’t having a grand old time with open racists like three years ago

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Anonymous #3 1w

No I’m still growing which is why I made the post to talk to people. I’m having actual convos with people in DMs cause I’m still sorting out what politics I support. But my perspective is that you’re pissed I left the party and are getting a rise out of me. Nobody rage baits like MAGA and you seem to have their skill

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Anonymous #3 1w

Another MAGA calling card is repeating the same line over again acting like it’ll have more meaning the 3rd time you say it, ignoring whatever evidence/situation is presented

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Anonymous #3 1w

Holy shit, you’re MAGA aren’t you?

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Anonymous OP 1w

You’re literally projecting; I was never in the Republican Party because I clocked that they were racist as a teenager. You’re trying to imply that this is some skill that no one else had (it isn’t) to cover up the fact that you also clocked that they were problematic and didn’t care lmao Now you’re on here trying to find people to help you master your liberal grift (a la Dean Withers and other closet conservatives pretending to be liberals) for social points lmao, please sit down

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Anonymous #3 1w

No I mean you’re literally acting like a maga in disguise. “Dems only know how to call people racist”, which is all you did. You seem oddly pissed that I LEFT the Republican Party and seem to be baiting me into being pissed at the left to move back. You’ve also said no actual left leaning policy other than “racism” which makes me think you don’t even know left leaning policies. I’m being fully genuine, I think you’re a MAGA in disguise

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Anonymous #3 1w

Youre acting like how republicans imagine democrats, not an actual left leaning person. I think I clocked your shit

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Anonymous OP 1w

First of all, I’d only be “pissed” at the dishonesty that comes from these ridiculous movie-esque “I used to be Republican” redemption stories. We all know your kind doesn’t really change lol Secondly, you keep assuming that I’m a Democrat even though I literally never said that? Why would I have brought up Democrat policies when I never even claimed to be a democrat?

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I don’t support any political party, but to sit here and act like republicans aren’t knowingly bigoted is what we aren’t going to do lmaooo

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Right… that makes sense😒

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Anonymous #3 1w

I mean I’ll repeat my reasoning. You seem mad that I LEFT the Republican Party and claim it’s cause people are unchangable and irredeemable. but you’re using hardcore democrat stereotypes to do it. You’ve done nothing but try and get a rise out of people and refuse to elaborate beyond “you’re racist forever cause you were a Republican”. You have one talking point on repeat, just like MAGA. If you are being honest then idk but I think I clocked it

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Because that is the point? There is no elaboration to be had unless you want me to go policy by policy for the things your party did that you were okay with lmao. And “your kind” is “conservatives”

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Anonymous #3 1w

I mean that’s what I’m doing with the sane people in DMs. Going over republican/democrat policies and discussing where we differ/align. You’re just the fun side quest rn

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Anonymous OP 1w

And is

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Anonymous #3 1w

Idk if people will still be able to see our convos after I block you but I’m blocking you cause this is the least beneficial convo I’ve had with anyone. I also think you’re dishonest about what you believe and aren’t looking for any political discussion. Idk what you actually believe and so a conversation isn’t worth the time. Sorry my political affiliation pissed you off so much and I hope everyone has a great day!

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Anonymous #13 1w

Honestly they might be masquerading as #3. Read their comments and tell me if you think it’s a MAGA trying to rage bait

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Anonymous #13 1w

Wait if I block them can yall not see their comments anymore? Fuck.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I think you’re confusing republicans with elites. Republicans had little choice in who they got to vote for and I’m sure if we had a better candidate then it’d be someone else in charge. As a former leftist, I still fear Kamala would’ve fucked our country up way more than Trump has. If you support either of them, you’re an elitist supporter led by cult mentality. Being Republican or democrat doesn’t mean you should support either one. It’s pick your poison and they have little to do with peoples

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Anonymous #14 1w

actual wants and needs

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Anonymous #16 1w

Wait you can still see #3 even after I blocked them? I was deleting my comments cause I figured yall couldn’t see them either

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Anonymous #16 1w

I honestly think #3 might be WomenForTrump in disguise

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Anonymous OP 1w

Who knows but people like that piss me off. And yeah I can still see the comments

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Anonymous #14 1w

genuinely what could Kamala have done that is worse than what’s currently happening? i desperately hope to understand why people think this way. Trump is literally building towards a police state and disobeying his roles granted by the constitution, and you think a lawyer, a LAW-yer would be doing things further outside the bounds of legality and precedent?

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Anonymous #12 1w

“or… you know… you could do the thing we’ve been doing for 200 years to no avail” jeez man idk how we glanced over that obvious solution

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Anonymous #17 1w

This. Idk why people are acting like Kamala is so incompetent she would have burnt down the country. Shes been in political offices before trump even considered running. Is she ideal? Absolutely NOT. Is she magnitudes more reliable, stable, cognitive, healthy, skilled, experienced than trump? Absolutely YES. Kamala isn’t the best candidate but she’s magnitudes better than trump

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Anonymous OP 1w

No we can still see their comments if you block, only you won’t be able to see their comments

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Anonymous #3 1w

Dude cool it 💀 you are assuming a TON of shit about op just because they previously identified as republican. You can believe in small localized government and free markets without being the devil.

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Anonymous mother_russia 1w

No you can’t… because free markets are evil. Opposition to regulation is evil, gutting social programs is evil. Conservatism is anti life, anti all that is good.

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Anonymous #3 1w

BRO YOU SAID “your kind” PLEASE HEAR YOURSELF 😭😭😭

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Anonymous #10 1w

Free markets are talking about minimal regulation, not no regulation. And people who believe in small government typically mean that it should be on the locals to help the poor and struggling in their communities rather than the government, not that they should just be abandoned. You can be moral and believe in the classic republican system.

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Anonymous #10 1w

I am not republican and that’s because I disagree about what’s the most effective way for people to be helped, not because we disagree that they /should/ be helped.

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Anonymous mother_russia 1w

Thank you for saying shit better than I can. I can’t see if #3 is still going off but you’re a blessing

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Anonymous mother_russia 1w

no you can’t… it’s not a matter of opinion, it a fact that such a system abandons the poor and makes life less safe for everyone. ffs republicans literally oppose clean air and water laws. conservatism is an immoral ideology.

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Anonymous mother_russia 1w

republicans absolutely do not actually believe people should be helped.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Hey man - you seem genuinely cool, but I wanted to gently flag something that came off a little off. When you said “I hate using it as a defense but I’m literally a gay man and am veryyy liberal when it comes to shit like that” - it kinda sounded like you were implying that being gay automatically shields someone from critique around LGBTQ+ issues. But the thing is - as another gay person - identity unfortunately doesn’t equal immunity from causing harm, even unintentionally.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I promise that I’m not trying to be a condescending dick! I’m bad with tone, so let me know if I am and I’ll try to recalibrate. 🤙 I only bring it up because, unfortunately, the usage of “I’m X” as a sort of rhetorical shield of sorts is something that conservative media loves to weaponize - especially by bad actors (like maybe Fox News hiring women/lgbt folks to attack queer/women’s rights under the guise of…authenticity I guess).

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Anonymous #10 1w

There is nothing inherent about the base values aligning someone as a pre maga or anti maga republican that makes them automatically bad people who don’t think people should be helped. White supremacists? Inherently immoral. MAGA? Inherently immoral. But believing in free markets and small government? Not inherently immoral. It CAN be immoral when added with other beliefs but it’s not inherent.

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Anonymous #10 1w

So the point is to stop assuming things and dealing in complete absolutes. And if you believe that the results and stats on a topic show it isn’t as helpful or efficient as other methods, then discuss that with the person rather than assuming they know it’s ineffective for helping people and just wants those people to suffer.

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Anonymous #10 1w

I know plenty of people who were previously Republican who left the party because of Trump and other weirdo extremist, who are actually good people who just think there are different better ways to help people. And when it’s not about human rights, it actually is okay to disagree about how to handle an issue or the best solution. Sometimes disagreement is opinionated, sometimes it’s uneducated, and sometimes it’s malicious. You just assumed you disagree with OP bc they are malicious.

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Anonymous #7 1w

I’m not sure I would call Biden "weak" for that. No president should "command" their base. That is the behavior of kings and subjects. It’s more a commentary on the indoctrination of Trump’s base more than anything else.

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