Anonymous #1 4w

And even with proper understanding that does not justify any land being taken or dominated by that group of people

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Anonymous #1 4w

I probably don’t have a good understanding you’re right, although I’m more critiquing on all race/religion supremacy than any specific one. Just tried to hit all the bases

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Anonymous OP 4w

No yeah I figured that was the case. Plus, the Jews that misunderstand what that means are often the loudest and get the most attention which is unfortunate

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Anonymous #1 4w

It pains me how much people misuse faith in whatever god they believe in as a means to harm and demean others

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Anonymous OP 4w

Agree completely

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Anonymous #1 4w

I say this as someone with a strong appreciation for Jewish history and culture so don’t take this as being insulting, but I feel like this is a later revision as to what the word chosen means that is not reflected in the original texts. Like the Old Testament is just fuckin *full* of genocide being committed against other people groups. Like that was the whole thing with Jericho etc. God basically just went “this land is yours now take it” and everyone in Jericho was killed

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Anonymous #2 4w

Like I’m sure that later medieval Jewish thinkers really put a lot of thought into it and came up with complex philosophical reasonings as to what the word chosen means. But in the Old Testament it very much feels like “go kill those midianites/canaanites/philistines/amalekites/amorites/perizzites/etc”

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Anonymous #2 4w

I think that’s largely the case for Abrahamic religions. I don’t think any of the 3 are exempt from things like this. Judaism believes in debate, adaptations to new circumstances and cultural beliefs/systems so yes many will recognize that this is in fact a change and should be changed

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Anonymous #2 4w

There’s a long history in Judaism of actively rejecting old statements and beliefs and adapting to new conditions and moral codes

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Anonymous #1 4w

Yeah I definitely believe that the rabbinical scholarship has changed the general interpretation of it greatly. Unfortunately the old ideas will still rear their ugly head. I think most clearly in Utah, where the Mormons used the promised land rhetoric for their “new Zion” very explicitly and native Americans suffered for it. But I feel like it’s also a component of modern Zionism (though there’s many secular arguments which are perhaps more prominent)

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Anonymous #2 4w

Yeah I do agree that that is true

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