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Okay but besides the optics is there anything wrong, economics/national security wise, with taking Greenland? Yes we do have military bases there but obviously we would have more control over the area if we owned it
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Anonymous 2w

The very slight increase in control we would gain isn’t worth losing our allies. But then again they’ve already stopped sharing intelligence briefings with us since it just kept getting back to Russia so maybe they aren’t even our allies anymore now.

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Anonymous 2w

1. The US is currently not a good steward of the environment and Greenland is crucial. climate instability is a danger to natsec 2. we suddenly own land very near our enemies. our geographic distance is what has protected us in the past 3. domino effect of stabbing our allies in the back. That’s not just optics

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Anonymous 2w

Like I mean besides the fact that the native Greenlanders don’t want to be US territory. What’s wrong with it economically speaking?

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Anonymous 2w

They have to import basically everything. They would get pissed tf off if they couldn’t import things from their neighboring countries without tariffs. We’d also have to create infrastructure like the postal service and social security administration in incredibly remote areas

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Anonymous 2w

So for one, Greenland currently costs Denmark around 600 million every year. Greenland currently has pretty limited mineral infrastructure so I think it’d be a pretty significant money sink for decades before it became profitable (plus that’s taxpayer money being spent to make hypothetical mineral profits)

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Anonymous 2w

It’s a dick move

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

They already have that infrastructure though, don’t they? Not very good because very few people live there but. The US is really good at setting up military infrastructure everywhere in the world.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Yes, we’d probably have to pay some amount into it for the sake of 1. Defense and 2. Funding the oil companies so they can find and distribute the minerals to the American people

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

That’s just the economic aspect of running Greenland in the first place. The bigger issue is the massive foreign policy hit of antagonizing the entirety of Western Europe over this island. Plus Greenland doesn’t allow private ownership of land, is used to socialized healthcare and college, has many Danish residents, and many Greenlanders live in Denmark. An American administration would struggle to maintain good public opinion in Greenland

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Well, they already have like 96% dissatisfaction rate because the Greenlanders don’t want to be taken over by America So I am not sure how it could go anywhere but up from there, after the US takes over and things get better for everyone

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Plus many Greenlanders rely on Iceland and Denmark for medical emergencies and college and taking Greenland out of the Schengen area would make that much more difficult. You’d need to sort out getting Greenlanders from Tasiilaq to Iceland for medical emergencies while dealing with tighter border rules.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Oil and mineral companies don’t tend to distribute wealth except to stakeholders. Taxpayer money would go in, company profits would come out

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

And do you have any stocks?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I don’t think things would get better under an American admin. America has a worse college and healthcare system, likely would not respect their traditional language rights and public land system, and would likely encourage a bunch of Americans to come in as settlers (unless Greenland can exclude Americans from property ownership like American Samoa does)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

The postal service and other civilian services aren’t military infrastructure. They have mail service but it’s limited and sometimes you have to go to your local post office to pick it up (possibly similar to remote areas of Alaska). How are you going to fund it though? Is USPS going to be able to fund it with the rest of their revenue or will congress have to give them money for it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

American life expectancy is ~6 years more than in Greenland

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Oh that too. Where would any complex surgery get airlifted to? I doubt Denmark or any other European country will take those

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Not in the specific mineral companies that operate in Greenland. Stocks is not a way to distribute wealth to the average American because the ultra wealthy own a disproportionate amount in stocks. Taxpayer money would come from everybody but dividends would overwhelmingly go to the wealthy few. Plus this is decades of taxpayer money going in for a hypothetical future profit that might not come

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

We have agreements with European countries right now Why would that not be the case after? The UK isn’t even in the euros zone and they still are good charms with their euro buddies

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Which European countries do we have agreements with to airlift civilians to for medical emergencies?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

If this is about distributing oil revenue to residents of Greenland, you could maybe do something like the Alaska Permanent Fund, but I’m not sure whether the federal gov and oil companies would let that happen

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Greenland is a specific region. It’s not comparable to America as a whole. It’s most similar to far north Alaska, which does actually also have a higher life expectancy than Greenland. The reason Greenland has a lower life expectancy than Denmark and the usa is due to high suicide rates and high smoking and alcohol abuse rates. It’s not to do with the healthcare system, it’s more social issues.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

I mean that Houston is the biggest medical center of the world

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

We are talking short term airlifts. Rural Greenland doesn’t have medical centers, so people need to be airlifted either to Nuuk or if they live in the far east, to Reykjavik in Iceland. For operations, they go to Copenhagen. In an emergency you can’t airlift an east Greenlander to Texas, there will need to be a process to get them swift entry into Iceland despite no longer being in the Schengen area. It can be done but it shows this is very complicated

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

That’s a 3000 mile trip. Is the US gov picking up the tab to transport someone for medical treatment in Houston?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Plus you’ll have to also think about the citizenship of Greenlanders. What if some people want to stay Danish citizens? Will they be forced to leave? What if a young Greenlander no longer has access to free Danish college like he did before?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

I think they’re talking about oil and mineral wealth being distributed to Americans in the form of stock dividends to make up for all the taxpayer money we would have to sink into Greenland? I don’t think stock dividends count as actually reimbursing Americans considering 40% of American adults don’t own stocks, but they all pay taxes

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

I mean from a logistics POV I guess it would just be a tax credit. Or a lowering of taxes because the gov is getting revenue from elsewhere

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Like the fact of the matter is we talk a lot of big game about Greenland’s mineral wealth but there’s literally 2 operational mines in the entire country. And both are already operated by American-Canadian-British companies. All owning Greenland does is make it so we pay taxes to do the shit we already could do there.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

All it will do is save us money in the long run by giving us more defense capabilities for cheap

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

And people can move there because we’re kind of getting overcrowded here

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Ok you could’ve kept the bait up but then you said that last part

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

How would it give us more defense capabilities? Greenland is in nato. We have a base there? Wait fuck I saw your last reply do you really think that like there’s no way you actually believe that 💀 that’s bait surely

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Greenland is literally the least populated country per capita

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I mean per mile per capita is always 1 lol

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

America is not out of space. The Midwest has been depopulated by industrial farming. Hell, we have an entire massive barely inhabited arctic region. Greenland has so few people because most of it is a fucking ice sheet. It cannot support a large population of people. Not that we even need to put people there at all.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Like dude we aren’t running out of space we have massive stretches of unused rural land in this country

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