Anonymous #1 8w

What has happened since Oct 7th in Gaza is worse than the Oct 7th attack on Israel. What Gaza was before Oct 7th was a massive concentration camp created by Israel where they would mow the lawn, killing innocent civilians

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Anonymous OP 8w

That’s just not true. If it was, there needs to be a group that runs the camp, and a group of involuntary inmates. In this case, the group that runs Gaza is Hamas. It is also atypical for the population of a concentration camp to grow 25% in 13 years and it is also atypical for the involuntary inmates to possess offensive weapons.

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Anonymous #1 8w

70% of people in Gaza are either Nakba survivors or the descendants of Nakba survivors. They are not allowed to return to their ancestral homeland in present day Israel. The Jewish resistance fighters in the Warsaw ghetto had weapons

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Anonymous OP 8w

The ghetto, not the concentration camp. The two are completely different things. Half the world’s remaining Holocaust survivors live in Israel and a substantial population are their descendants. Will also disclose that I support a two state solution with Palestinian right to return and Jewish right to self determination as long as both sides agree to pursue peace.

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Anonymous #1 8w

Yea like polls go both ways here…. Prejudice and wishing harm on civilians is never ok even if it’s understandable.

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Anonymous #2 8w

Exactly

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Anonymous #2 8w

And there are always exceptions even among right wing/ radicalized populations. Notice the headline said left wing Jews were concerned. When you are in a society steeped in propaganda that is even more notable

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Anonymous #1 8w

Israel is not a partner in peace. It is a genocidal settler colony. The reason Gaza is considered a concentration camp is because it is one of the most densely populated places on earth, there is no freedom of movement in and out from it, it has high unemployment, and it’s civilian population is regularly killed by Israel

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Anonymous #1 8w

Do you genuinely believe the status quo in Gaza, created by Israel, was acceptable before Oct 7 2023?

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Anonymous OP 8w

No, no one implied it was. This is a discussion on polling

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Anonymous #2 8w

That also doesn’t make it ok to murder civilians on October 7. The holocaust + incidents like October 7 have had a radicalising effect on the Israeli population that makes many people blind to Palestinians suffering. That doesn’t make it ok

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Anonymous #2 8w

I also understand why a Palestinian would hate all Jews. That doesn’t make it ok either

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Anonymous #2 8w

I made the point that Israeli Jewish society is genocidal based on polling. My point is that, at least for the time being, the solution will not come from within Israeli Jewish society. The counter point #1 was making was basically well the Palestinians are just as bad when it is Israeli Jews who get to see their violent desires towards Palestinians in Gaza become reality

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Anonymous #2 8w

Do you think I think murdering civilians on Oct 7 was ok because I don’t. I hate that Israel perpetuates violence through its occupation

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Anonymous OP 8w

So where do you think the solution will come from? Based on polling, it looks like neither side is interested. However, there have been multiple talks of peace agreements for the last 80 years but nothing has come out of it. Have you researched matters such as the 1947 Partition Plan, Oslo Accords, Camp David Summit, and Gaza Disengagement, to name a few?

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Anonymous #1 8w

It will come through the enforcement of international law combined with a negotiated settlement between Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank, Israel, and diaspora alongside Israel’s Jewish population. It is important that countries around the world enforce international law and since Israel has violated international law to sanction parts of Israel’s economy associated with it. No more weapons transfers, sanction financial institutions operating in the West Bank

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