This is literally something he said, when he was asked what he would do if his own daughter was raped and became pregnant, his response was “the baby would be delivered”

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Anonymous #2 4d

It’s literally on Jubilee filmed. 🫩

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Anonymous #3 4d

Yep

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it’s made up and you don’t like it until you find out he actually said it. then suddenly it’s fine. shut up, trash. 🤡

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So you make up a claim and then abandon your integrity for your pathetic ego, wow what an inspiration 🤡

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I definitely could, but his logic was rarely sound and he was more of a parrot

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So force women to go through irreversible changes to their bodies and health even if they were raped, surely that’s what “god intended”

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I don’t think children should be forced to give birth and possibly die

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Would you respect him if your child got assaulted

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Shitty rage bait

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responding “LOL” to that comment specifically is fucking insane. what a piece of shit, and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

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lmao. so mad. 😂

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Anonymous #8 4d

1 would likely be the one assaulting his own child, so i’m gonna assume the answer is yes.

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More shitty rage bait

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do you think saying “word slop” somehow changes anything? a cockroach is more respectable (and preferable) than you are.

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So mad you’re replying in here to every comment lol

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🤡

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crazy way to say you’re too stupid to think of anything witty. pack it up bro, you’re embarrassing yourself 🤡🤡🤡🤡

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forget a “well thought out reply” (as if you were capable of such a thing), you do not deserve the air you breathe.

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Anonymous #4 4d

the fact that this depraved pedophilic freak thinks they have any room to talk on here is utterly insane. the only thing that dude deserves is a wooden bat to the head, repeatedly.

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“not worth my time” he says after commenting 5+ times in the last ten minutes. 🤡

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and yet you keep responding to them

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like if we’re not worth your precious time why are you still commenting, trash?

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Anonymous #5 4d

the maternal mortality ratio increased in the US by 26% between 2000 and 2014 btw 😍 “pro-lifers” when they refuse to call for pro-mother’s-lives jurisdiction or research

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Anonymous #11 4d

tbf this was partly due to better identification methods, but the US has the HIGHEST PERCENTAGE of maternal mortality (after birth) out of all developed countries. that’s irreconcilable.

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Anonymous #14 3d

Except if you were created by rape you shouldn’t BE alive

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Anonymous #16 3d

“Murder does not fix rape” “the rapist should be put to death” hmm totally logically consistent

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Anonymous #17 3d

It is perfectly consistent. Murder is defined as being unjustified. Putting a rapist to death is justified. However, justice does not undo the crime. It punishes the guilty and deters future would-be offenders.

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Anonymous no_bitches 3d

“You shouldn’t be alive” do you even hear yourself?

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Unless… it’s on film on YouTube!

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Anonymous #16 3d

And force a child through the trauma of childbirth? Fuck off. A fetus isn’t even able to think or feel for the majority of gestation

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Anonymous #19 3d

Is it ok to murder a person in a coma if you know they will wake up in 9 months?

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Anonymous #18 3d

They can’t hear themselves they are muppets

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Anonymous #19 3d

do you want the child to suffer the trauma of taking a life?

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Anonymous no_bitches 3d

What a terrible thing to say. People have no control over the circumstances of their conception. I agree that rape should never happen, but life is the one good thing that sometimes comes from it.

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Anonymous #16 3d

Kill the rapist not the baby

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Anonymous #16 3d

Based

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Anonymous #18 3d

He’s saying the rape shouldn’t have happened dumbass

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Anonymous #16 3d

It also creates more victims that never get justice. Most sexual abuse is done by someone in the immediate family/close friends, and when little Suzy thinks her dad will be killed if she tells someone, little Suzy doesn’t tell anyone and more abuse happens. There’s lots of research on this but it’s also very easy to understand anyways. Honestly in my opinion they should die, but actually protecting victims is more important than my feelings about it

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Anonymous #20 3d

Would u prefer they suffer from a reminder of being raped everyday, and statistically abuse that child due to their resentment? Also, who’s to say their parents are willing to help (remember we are talking about a child here…) Most victims are abused by close friends and family, their parents statistically are likely to be the perpetrators in some way, if not directly. It’s not a decision we can make for an imaginary person, let alone a real one. That’s the whole point bro

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He said this exact thing bruh. He asked what would happen if his ten year old daughter was raped and pregnant and he said “the baby would be delivered” look it up.

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Anonymous #16 3d

Are they inside me causing me enormous physical and emotional pain and risk of death for 40 weeks? 🤔

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Anonymous #23 3d

🤮

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Anonymous #22 3d

No because they can actually say THAT, instead they’re saying “you shouldn’t be alive”… Like are we new to English and conversations?

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Anonymous #24 3d

Seek counseling and support, don’t murder.

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Anonymous #22 3d

Except if this was imaginary there would be no pregnancy. That’s the whole point. If you believe that there is moral consideration from the time of conception you don’t simply just kill it. If the child is traumatized from the abortion or not doing so is just a silly argument because not only is there no guarantee of negative effects, but you have to argue that somehow a life is not as important as one person’s temporary well-being which can treated with the help of therapists.

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Anonymous #20 3d

You can be traumatized from either end, so what’s your point?

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Anonymous #14 3d

With all due respect, I understand the point you are making, but you’re here because your mother decided to have you. In a perfect world, where everyone does no one else any harm, I would agree with you. But the point for people opposed to Kirk’s view in this instance is that it’s ultimately our mothers who create our value because they are the ones that have to physically decide to carry us to term.

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Anonymous #26 3d

do you know the percentage of abortions that happen due to rape incest or medical emergencies? clearly not, because it’s less than 1%. Did you know that a survey was conducted that asked over 5,000 biologists when life began(conception vs birth), of the 5,000+, 82% vote liberal and 91% considered themselves pro choice. 98.6% agreed life begins at conception, and not a single person said it begins at birth. Stop stripping others of life because of bad situations, they’re worth just as much as us

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Anonymous #14 3d

surely you’d be able to provide an actual source for this claimed study, and surely it wasn’t funded by a think tank dedicated solely to repealing access to abortion procedures? aka cite a source, and it better be an actual scholarly article and not some political think tank.

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Anonymous #9 3d

fucking anti-abortionists, and the fact that they have the nerve to call themselves “pro-life” when they don’t give a flying fuck about any living thing aside from fetuses (up until the point they’re born), is utterly repulsive.

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Anonymous #14 3d

I understand that the majority of abortions are not due to dire situations, I’m saying that the option should be left open because the environment we’ve cultivated is incredibly hostile to people, and to women in particular. And yes, scientifically life does start at conception, but life and personhood are two different things. You’re saying you want to grant human rights to people at every stage of development during pregnancy and I think that is a very dangerous and nonsensical idea.

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Anonymous #14 3d

And as for people’s worth, I certainly think that more people should be born and that children are worth everything, but I think it should be with intention and with the desire to have children, not out of a societal and legal obligation to keep the child, though I admit that last part is my personal ideals speaking.

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Anonymous #26 3d

There is nothing dangerous about protecting the unborn

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Anonymous #14 3d

If this is accurate, it’s still a matter of choice. The point is whether a mother instills that value in the life she carries, that is her choice to make. No one else makes that decision for her. Not me, not you, just her. Of course circumstance allows for other people to come in and speak with her and deliberate but ultimately comes down to what she wants and what the doctor feels is medically feasible.

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Anonymous #26 3d

You realize how insane that is? That someone can just not see the value in a human being and then make decisions like that but are thus justified?

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Anonymous #20 3d

I don’t see it as insane because life is not equal to personhood. Yes, human life biologically starts at conception, that is an irrefutable fact, but do children and adults not have different rights? Do we not jail people for crimes and potentially sentence them to death based on the severity of the crime? All of these things are a matter of circumstance, and life in utero versus out of utero is two different things entirely.

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Anonymous #16 3d

By enforcing that their rape victims go through pregnancy you are allowing the rapists to “win” as well though considering a decent part of the (disgusting) rationale is to have a sense of reproductive success. But please do force women to go through percent changes to their bodies and health because you value an unborn babies life over it’s already very alive and mature mother

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Anonymous no_bitches 3d

Wow, people born from rape shouldn’t be alive

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Anonymous #25 3d

Are you? Seems like a lot of other people understood it just fine. Stop looking to pick fights on semantics and focus on actually discussing the debated topic

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Anonymous #22 3d

Stop sticking to people just because they align with you personally. In response to saying that the conception in rape does not define the value of developing human, it was the “you shouldn’t be alive”. That’s just horrible wording, full stop. I mean you have to be doing it intentionally to make it this vague. Quite obviously a malicious remark designed to create conflict.

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Anonymous #20 3d

Please look into maternal death rates in the United States, there is a very real risk that comes with giving birth. Denial does not stop that from being a reality.

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Anonymous #20 3d

LOL but there’s a lot of danger in forcing women to continue pregnancies and in removing reproductive health sites especially in rural areas like the right has been doing. But keep living in lalaland

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Anonymous #28 3d

Oh no she didn’t kill a baby how terrible

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Anonymous #16 3d

Pedophilic Incest is bad actually

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Anonymous #16 3d

Difference: they do not depend on my body for life. I have autonomy over my own body. Thanks for the nothingburger question though

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shut it TPUSA

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Anonymous #10 3d

copium

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Anonymous #26 3d

Morally indifferent

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Anonymous #26 3d

that is such a dangerous precedent to set, we’ve determined that babies straight out of the womb know their parents voices because they have ability to comprehend, we also know that the injection of poison into their spinal cord is necessary because they fight and squirm if they aren’t killed before they are cut into pieces and ripped part by part onto a table. If you want to value human life over other human life, if that precedent became law, suddenly it opens a door for lawful race ranking

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Anonymous #14 3d

bringing up race out of nowhere btw

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Anonymous #11 3d

i’ll explain how they are very much connected by precedent and use actual situations and laws to prove just how similar they are

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Anonymous #32 2d

Why are you talking to Charlie? That’s weird of you cuz he’s dead

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Anonymous #32 2d

Please quote who is celebrating, you’re just shadow boxing over here 😭

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Anonymous #33 2d

Better yet not just salad but chicken too because “you’re taking someone’s life to make yours better”

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Anonymous #33 2d

“oh but I’d die if I don’t eat” yeah that baby will die if she gives birth but you don’t seem to care about that do you?

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Anonymous #14 2d

Did those “5000”, biologists get a fat check afterwards, cause you learn pretty fucking quickly in biology that what is “alive” is complicated. A fetus acts like a part of the mothers body until born but y’all wouldn’t consider a spleen alive would you.

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Anonymous #26 2d

It’s not a decision, it’s a duty. If there was a way for the child to grow and live outside of the womb, then hell yeah. But in order to protect the human life within the womb, all the mother has to do is not abort the baby. Obviously in scenarios where the mother and child would die if she carried the baby to term, we’d chose to at least save the mother’s life. I think the value of life in general is just greatly underestimated these days

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Anonymous #34 2d

This, as well as personhood and alive being separate necessary distinctions. Something can be alive but not be granted personhood much like how children are alive but are treated differently legally than adults are. We know there are important differences in how to treat the 2 very alive lifeforms, why should a fetus be any different? It’s physically and emotionally MUCH more different than a child and adult ever could be after all

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Anonymous #16 1d

“The one good thing” that sometimes comes from RAPE??? Is being forced to CARRY FOR NINE MONTHS AND THEN DELIVER AND RAISE THE SPAWN OF THE RAPIST????? Go actually fuck yourself, you fucking moron

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Anonymous #16 1d

The point is the woman gets to choose whether or not she wants to keep the child. If she keeps them, great, if she decides to have an abortion, it’s understandable. The issue is other people attempting to decide on behalf of the woman when they are the one who will directly impart most of the labor to keep their child alive. I’ve seen people of both perspectives in this chat say that the woman should or shouldn’t, but in my view that isn’t up to anyone except them.

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Anonymous #16 1d

i like how you didn’t consider how this would effect the 10 year old girl and what carrying that baby would do to her mentally and physically

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Anonymous #37 1d

It would effect her but it wouldn’t be as bad as being murdered.

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Anonymous #16 1d

You realize fetuses that undergo abortion don’t feel the pain of the procedure. Right?

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Anonymous #16 1d

Clump of cells btw

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Anonymous #33 1d

They’re not pro life in any sense. They try to say that all life is precious, but will still do everything possible to harm the environment (eating meat, not supporting climate change legislation, etc.). I mean they don’t even care about the child once it’s born, they adamantly oppose gun regulation, student debt cancellation, universal health insurance, etc.

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Anonymous #23 8h

So are you

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Anonymous #16 8h

So are we giving my dandelions in my yard human rights because they’re alive and a clump of cells? Learn the difference between human and personhood lol

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Anonymous #5 7h

Well… they’re a plant. They maybe are entitled to flower rights, whatever those may be. Though they’re an invasive weed, so…. That’s a whole other convo. Humans deserve human rights. Like wut? We breed, kill and eat animals. I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling or just simple.

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Anonymous #5 7h

My point is that just because a fetus is a clump of cells doesn’t mean they aren’t a person. Can you tell me the difference between being human and having personhood? Because I don’t think there is one.

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Anonymous OP 7h

Yes and so is murdering babies

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Anonymous #19 7h

Neither do people who get shot in their sleep but we still ban that.

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Anonymous #16 7h

Children have different rights and recognized personhoods than adults do for an example, yes there’s a distinction for the law and that matters

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Anonymous #5 7h

What human rights are not afforded to children that grownups have? Understand that civil liberties are different

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Anonymous #5 7h

Yes children have different rights, but there is no dispute that they also have “human rights” and are considered human and thus specific actions, like what abortion is entailed, becomes an area for debate. There’s more to murder than “it’s illegal cause it’s the law” or because “those are the rights” which goes into deeper conversations about fundamental moral considerations.

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Anonymous #20 7h

While they essentially exist from our creator, the following have been enshrined in the universal declaration of human rights. (Some will look familiar if you payed attention in 7th grade social studies) Right to life, liberty, and security: Protection of your physical safety and freedom.Freedom from torture and slavery: Total bans on mistreatment, cruelty, and forced servitude.Equality before the law: The right to fair treatment and equal protection under the legal system.

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Anonymous #25 7h

They exist for children just as equally as they do grown ups. Just as they should apply as much as possible for the unborn.

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Anonymous #25 7h

Oh my Lord can y'all stop spamming this conversation. If abortion bothers you so much that it direct all your energy to the unborn rather than kids suffering in trafficking rings or abusive homes, then go burn down every abortion clinic in the country or run for office and pass a new law banning it all together.

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Anonymous #10 7h

Cool nonsequitor.

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Anonymous #25 7h

it’s may not be only the zealots with religious psychosis guilty of this shit, but you’ll be damned sure that the zealots with religious psychosis are always guilty of this shit. and yes I’m talking about you, 25.

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Anonymous #25 7h

I stg if you’re that same AfD spam poster from US Politics, I’ll lose my shit.

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Anonymous #19 6h

They’re pro-controlling-other-people-and-not-getting-a-job-or-minding-their-own-business

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Anonymous #19 6h

This is what happens to your brain when you’re only exposed to rhetoric and you can’t comprehend fleshed out nuanced issues.

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Anonymous #25 6h

explain your point. I’ll listen and I might not agree but I’ll still listen

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Anonymous #10 6h

I do want a law passed banning it nationwide. But for that to work we have to convince the voters, which is what I am trying do here. I don’t have to try to convince people that child trafficking is bad because we already agree on that. However, a lot of people still think it’s ok to murder prenatal children and that needs to change.

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Anonymous #9 6h

Do you think it might be possible that many defenders of abortion are suffering from guilt-induced psychosis from the knowledge that they or someone they know has killed their own child? And they deny the evil of abortion because they are in denial about the horrible thing they have done? The gospel must be shared with them so they know they can still repent and be forgiven.

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Anonymous #16 6h

projection? that’s your choice?

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Anonymous #25 1h

Then explain. Address the points I mentioned in my comment.

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Anonymous #33 1h

They unironically believe the people shitposting about have seven abortions a day

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