Anonymous #1 1d

I think ppl are starting to tire of the idea that you can change your sex and I think it will lead to an outright rejection soon

-12

Anonymous #1 1d

Actually it’s not that you can change your sex that’s frustrating ppl I actually believe it’s the idea that by making personal choices (socially transitioning) you can “opt out” of some privileges and “opt in” to being one of the most marginalized groups.

-1

Anonymous #1 1d

Even tho I have no idea how the ai and the transness are connected I feel like ppl are going to reject both strongly at the time for some reason

-7

Anonymous OP 1d

People generally don’t volunteer to identify as trans, they do so because it’s what makes them most comfortable with their identity

29

Anonymous #2 1d

Sure

-8

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 1d

I feel like there’s an argument for the hormone and surgeries as part of a medical industry that gets billed and stuff

-6

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 1d

Like the fact that cis women can’t get breast augmentation covered but trans women can does suggest that there’s some financial benefit to covering the procedure in certain contexts over others

-1

Anonymous OP 1d

It’s not a speculative market tho. Private Equity and finance bros aren’t playing ring around the Rosie with trillions of dollars in the HRT industry, they are with AI, they did with housing in 08, they did with utility automobile and gas in 1929

12

Anonymous OP 1d

I’m not arguing that transitioning in our current state of affairs isn’t part of the privatized healthcare industry, I’m taking the position that this is a bad way of handling things and should be amended.

4

Anonymous #2 1d

I’m not saying they’re the same industry or the same financial incentives, just that personally believe the bubbles will pop at the same time

-4

Anonymous OP 1d

i would highly recommend not having an opinion about something if you have no knowledge or expertise on the subject lol. if you are going to have an opinion anyway, please admit your lack of knowledge so you don’t look like an ultracrepidarian.

19

Anonymous #7 1d

Sure

-3

Anonymous OP 1d

Where are you getting your belief that there is a bubble

7

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 1d

As I previously mentioned I think that the billing side of medicine sees some kind of advantage to some of these procedures for these patients over others, which I’ve noticed more people are becoming frustrated with that.

-3

Anonymous OP 1d

It’s like $3 billion dollars per year that’s spent on these surgeries. You may be right, probably are regarding how much scavenging occurs in the insurance-manufacturer-provider chain, but it’s not a scale that changes markets drastically. If NVDA shares drop 0.06% more money is lost than that entire market.

4

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 23h

Also my use of the word bubble isn’t strictly financial so maybe I could’ve used perceived tolerance bc I think the procedures covered thing + general public’s view on things (namely opting in/out of oppression and privilege) changing is going to combine to change what the average persons opinion on the topic is. I separately think that I’m seeing an intolerance for AI rising at rapidly and now I believe the perceived tolerance for both are trending down

0

Anonymous OP 23h

I see, I missed your comment amending “bubble” to just mean a collapse of public opinion. That’s an imprecise use of that term, to be incredibly generous. Comparing social approval for human rights to social approval for environmental abuse and economic predation is insane, especially when you haven’t provided ANY nexus or analysis to justify it.

3

Anonymous OP 23h

Why do you use the word “tolerance” for trans issues. It’s not something to be tolerated, it’s an inviolable obligation of the community.

5

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 23h

I’m gonna be really honest, dude it’s yikyak, I’m not gonna sit here here and write out my entire reason with citations and details bc ppl responding think I need to. I mostly just was thinking out loud ab how these things aren’t connected but feel like they’re somehow on the same timeline. I do think there’s a financial piece to it hence why I said bubble to begin with, but I don’t rly thing the financial piece is causing the push back of either.

-1

Anonymous OP 23h

I’m not saying you need to, I’m just saying you don’t deserve to be taken seriously on this until you do. How you navigate those options is your own prerogative.

4

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 23h

I’m not even tryna be aggy it’s just deadass 10 am on a Saturday and my college has a game later im mostly just thinkin. I also think that the human rights vs environmental abuse type language is also gonna effect the public perception, if it hasn’t already

-2

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 23h

No one deserves to be taken seriously lmao. Idc that you don’t take me seriously and hopefully you also don’t care that I don’t take you seriously. This is the community on yak for ppl who want to make change but like to tweet more than they like to do things. We aren’t serious people

-2

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 23h

There’s a sentiment that’s growing that ppl (women, more specifically) are tolerating being labeled as oppressors by those who previously oppressed them and that they should not have to. Thats part of what I’m referring to

-2

Anonymous OP 23h

I can’t for the life of me discern what you are talking about? You mean TERFs? They’re not getting any more popular and they’ve been around for ages.

8

Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 23h

Okay

0

Anonymous OP 22h

glad we agree on your lack of knowledge on the subject 🤝

17

Anonymous OP 21h

Gender-affirming care is not exclusively used by trans people though. Given the sheer ratio of cisgender to transgender individuals in the population, cis people seek gender-affirming care much more

12

Anonymous OP 21h

I’m not sure if it’s about financial benefit so much as harm to the patient that insurance is concerned with. Gender-affirming surgery for trans people can avert suicide and acute mental health crises, whereas breast augmentation for cis women is usually a cosmetic procedure

8