Anonymous #1 10w

Nick Fuentes is when ppl say stop dropping bombs on kids

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Anonymous #2 10w

So no US involvement but yes massacre 30k+ people on the streets in two days?

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Anonymous #1 10w

when the involvement is a war crime yeah

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Anonymous #3 10w

Good thing it's not

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Anonymous #1 10w

literally is bro, illegal under the UN Charter to attack a country unless it’s in self-defense which this very clearly wasn’t

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Anonymous #3 10w

You know what is though? masscaraing 30k+ innocent civilians in the street in 2 days

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Anonymous #1 10w

Welcome to magachomo land where bombing kids isn’t a war crime and raping them doesn’t make you a pedophile

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Anonymous #3 10w

International law is fake

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Anonymous #3 10w

Don’t you know that killing Iranian civilians is OUR job 🇺🇸

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Anonymous #1 10w

so we should just disregard it?

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Anonymous #3 10w

If it's in American interest absofuckinglutely. Don't get me wrong, that is not to say morality mustn't be considered.

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Anonymous #1 10w

imo war crimes are immoral idk ab you

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Anonymous #3 10w

Murr UN says it immoral so it must be

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Anonymous #1 10w

idk attacking a country without them declaring war or attacking you seems unnecessary

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Anonymous #1 10w

especially when they were willing to diplomatically de-escalate

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Anonymous #1 10w

Bro needs the UN to tell him blowing up a school is a war crime so he can say nuh uh

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Anonymous #2 10w

These people are lizards in human skin

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Anonymous #3 10w

Diplomatically de-escalate after genociding their own people lmao. Death to the regime you already fucked up big time

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Anonymous #1 10w

Talking about morality, go fuck yourself

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Anonymous #1 10w

i want the regime to be gone too, but outside intervention to install a regime in our own interests likely won’t be popular with the people leading to the same cycle of repression we see now

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Anonymous #3 10w

I don't know how many Iranians you know, but the vast, vast majority, especially those who fled the country due to this theocratic abomination, viscerally hate the regime. The only people who still support it are the boomer terrorist fringe who are still shouting death to America

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Anonymous #1 10w

American installment? Oh, you mean like the Shah? They were infetecamically better than the IRGC.

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Anonymous #1 10w

I know how many Iranians want the regime gone, the regime is repressive and authoritarian, but killing the ayatollah doesn’t collapse the regime, and the collapse of the regime could lead to a different dictator or even a terrorist group taking charge like we’ve seen in other American interventions in places like Iraq, Syria, Somalia, etc.

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Anonymous #1 10w

the Americans overthrew a democratically elected leader to install the Shah, who was unpopular and his reign literally led to Khamenei’s, it’s the U.S.’s fault this regime exists in the first place 😭

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Anonymous #3 10w

Baseless speculation about the future vs the reality on the ground right now

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Anonymous #1 10w

the reality on the ground is that Iranians are no more free today than they were 2 days ago

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Anonymous #3 10w

Work in progress

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Anonymous #1 10w

what makes you so certain the U.S. and Israel are going to “free” the people of Iran and not simply install a Western-friendly government that’s unpopular with the Iranian people?

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Anonymous #3 10w

“Western-friendly” implies the abolition of an autocratic regime

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Anonymous #1 10w

not necessarily, the U.S. has installed Western-friendly dictators before like the Shah in Iran, Armas in Guatemala, Diem in South Vietnam, Soko in Congo, Branco in Brazil, Suharto in Indonesia, Banzer in Bolivia, Pinochet in Chile, the military coup in Argentina, Habre in Chad, Batista in Cuba, the Somozas in Nicaragua, Balaguer in the Dominican Republic, Rhee and Chung-hee and Doo-hwan in South Korea, etc.

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Anonymous #3 10w

Fair response. However, something that stood out to me was Trump's specific call to action yesterday. “When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take.” Does not seem like Trump will be jumpy to fill the leadership vacuum.

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Anonymous #3 10w

Plus, the White Revolution policies under the Shah were objectively good and well favored outside of Islamic extremists. He was generally thought of as a benevolent dictator. But luckily, it doesn't seem we will go that route. This was covert CIA action in the past lol

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Anonymous #1 10w

if anything I’d say that’s a bad thing, a power vacuum could simply lead to Khamenei’s successor or a military dictator

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Anonymous #1 10w

if you call severe authoritarian repression, corruption, extreme inequality, and the brutal suppression of dissent by the SAVAK secret police “benevolent” sure, the economic growth greatly benefitted the elites but many average Iranians saw high inflation and rising poverty rates, the SAVAK were known both for torturing prisoners and arbitrary arrests

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Anonymous #4 10w

bc it’s very unlikely for Israeli or American bombs to hit a school /s

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Anonymous #3 10w

Same with Iranian gov /s

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Anonymous #4 10w

The bomb was either ours, the Israeli’s, or an anti air missile that went down. Still our fault all 3 ways

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Anonymous #4 10w

Iran wouldn’t even have had to fire a missile in their case if we hadn’t started it, this is primarily the U.S. and Israel’s fault

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Anonymous #3 10w

True, he had an iron grip on political life, but he also advanced literacy, women's rights, and the economy (high inflation but extremely high annual GDP growth, industrial modernization, poverty rates were actually declining, per capita rates tripled, I believe, and the middle class was basically reformed). The IRGC is worse on nearly every single objective metric.

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Anonymous OP 10w

It is fully possible that it was Iran’s, who were actively launching missiles and counter strikes. It’s not uncommon for misfires/tech failures to lead to missiles hitting the wrong target. Let’s wait to point fingers until there’s an investigation. It’s weird to automatically blame the U.S. because Iran said so

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Anonymous #4 10w

the war was started by Israel and the U.S. tho, no strikes by them = no bombs near schools whether they’re Iranian or Israeli or American

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Anonymous #3 10w

This is a horrid, horrid childish position. You are now justifying the worst atrocities in history, as every side in a war believes they were the ones “provoked.” The War of the Cities (Iran-Iraq War) is a perfect example of how this logic completely fails

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Anonymous #1 10w

Get better bait

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Anonymous #1 10w

poverty rates increased, most of the per capita gains went to societal elites, and he was a repressive dictator The U.S. overthrew a democratically-elected leader to install him simply bc Iran chose to nationalize their oil

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Anonymous #1 10w

dawg I’m not tryna justify the atrocity if Iran did it accidentally, but the idea that Iran started this is based on fantasy

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Anonymous #1 10w

and legally Israel and the U.S. provoked Iran, this isn’t even an argument

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Anonymous #2 10w

You are just choosing to believe these things out of your hate for Trump tho, there is a high chance that Iran bombed them themselves either bc 1. Because they suck and have no skill, and 2. They did it on purpose b. They don’t care about ANY life and know it would get people to turn on the US if we all spread for sure that the U.S. did it. Let’s find out the facts, Iran is the last news source you want to trust

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