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we need unwoke liberals to win the next election tbh. half these maga people dont even like trump’s policies, they just hate cancel culture
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Anonymous 1w

I would prefer to not throw queer and brown people under the bus in the hopes of winning over a voter who sees fascism on one side and being mean to racists on the other and chooses the fascism.

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Anonymous 1w

Sane liberal gives obvious for how to fix the democratic party; immediately gets stuck in the endless crab bucket of wokeism defenders. This is why nobody takes the Democratic party seriously anymore.

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Anonymous 1w

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being woke… that just means being completely aware of the hate going on in the world and around the country and wanting people to stop like gun violence, racism, womens healthcare, violent ice raids, etc. that’s being woke, being an left wing extremist is diff situation just like being an extreme republican is. cancel culture is about social media not politics, I promise you people aren’t voting for trump because they don’t wanna be canceled most trump s

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Anonymous 1w

Cancel culture isn’t a top 5 issue among that group

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

not for the hive mind, but cancel culture is what brought a lot of them in

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

thats not all that cancel culture is

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

ur taking the entire argument to the extremes..

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

What do you think cancel culture is?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Supporters are just hateful individuals who think anyone that isn’t a white straight male shouldn’t be treated the same

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

it can be anything. most maga’s will cite the ability to like certain canceled comedians. or get mad when the gen public boycotts something and pushes that boycott onto everyone else cancel culture doesnt apply to genuine outward racism IMO cause thats existed before cancel culture. i think it mostly refers to celebrities or companies that do smth more moderate or minimal, still bad but not outward bigotry

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

i agree, but i think its the atmosphere of pushing that opinion onto others. like take starbucks for example, for a while there (and still now) people would genuinely get mad at someone for not respecting the boycott. i think that’s a perfect example actually. they call it the woke mind virus for a reason. its not that everyones “mind controlled to find racism bad”, its that someone decides smth is canceled, and gets mad at anyone else who doesnt respect that

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

often holding them to the same standard as the original “crime”. (for example, calling anyone who goes to starbucks a zionist)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I definitely agree that people cancel things for ridiculous reasons and that people should just do what they want to do but it goes both ways. Extreme liberals will agree with your Starbucks example but there’s also republicans that will call someone a libtard for advocating for women’s rights or things that should be simple and given. And those people are usually maga. Woke to me means educated and it’s pretty sad that there’s a negative stigma around that truthfully.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I…guess I get what you mean? But I still think a lot of cancellations are for like genuine racism or other bigotries.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

i agree, but how often does that really happen? truly bad people just shift their audience to other bad people, they dont get cancelled cause they dont feel bad

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

i dont think most republicans would truly agree women dont deserve equal rights, i think they would say we already have them. and that’s because they are shown a different world than us. social media/news paints so many people’s “pictures of reality”. they are shown stuff that leads them to believe the left has been manipulated to fight fake/unnecessary fights like a weaponized “woke mind virus”. i dont thinj most of them are evil, i think most are misled and or stupic

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

for example, my mom is a maga, she isnt misogynistic and she very much understands rape culture. but if someone brings up the me too movement, ahe’s gonna scoff. she will believe the individual stories like of harvey weinstein. but the name “me too” is so loaded in her mind, she has her identity set in the right/maga.. and has been shown too much about her community making fun of it. so she considers herself against it

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

but its not that she hates women or doesnt believe there are many creep men in holly wood. its all identity politics and people not giving much thought to things

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Lol this nonsense why y’all lose

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

semantics is the issue. people think of different things when you say woke or cancel culture, i think we all agree in the end its just about the different meanings we ascribe the word. lets not generalize or attack eachother tho cause that as well is part of the issue

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

its trained in us to keep us divided. im pretty sure 2 and 3 agree with me they just think of smtb different when they hear woke or cancel culture. if we dont understand eachother we just need a safe place to have that discussion and realize were all on the same side for the most part

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

assuming ur right leaning tho, would you say my assessment (of how your side views this topic) is fair?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I do think that the dems should embrace populist economic messaging as a way to win voters, particularly poor white and Latino voters who aren’t moved by social justice messaging. However, a lot of dems lately seem to be thinking the solution is to throw trans people under the bus and I don’t think that’s acceptable.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

lowkey tho, the democratic officials already are, and us as the voters are hating them for it. we let trump win in this election because we refused to vote for someone who wouldn’t comment on israel/palestine. we require perfection and the right picks up anyone who’s left

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I suppose part of the problem is that “woke” is a term conservatives made up (well, stole from black people) which doesn’t really mean anything specific. So if someone says they “don’t like woke” that’s anywhere from “thinking policing language to be more inclusive is stupid” to “thinking trans people shouldn’t be allowed to exist in public” or “is racist”

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

yes exactly! its semantics, SO many of our fights are and it drives me insane. noone seems to want to have the long convos required to get past that too

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Woke is something progressives started calling themselves and conservatives thought it was so cringe they started using it to make fun of them

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

its been around a long time before it went mainstream

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