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US Politics 1w
Real take is both sides are bad bc biden also killed immigrants and went for oil on indigenous land and also bombing, obama detained imigrants and starved them and was a big push into ICE becoming worse and also bombed a lotta countries, and kamala ran on
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US Politics 1w
love that the moderate take is like “well both sides are bad! one side is a fascist dictatorship and the other is like… annoying about gender issues. it’s really tough there’s pros and cons to both! i voted for Trump though cuz Kamala would be bad”
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Anonymous 1w

Biden wasn’t good. But he at least stood up to Netanyahu rather than being “compromised by Israel” (as the FBI found with Trump) Oil on indigenous land is bad, but at least it’s not invading foreign nations for their oil. Biden killed a fraction of the number of immigrants in 4 years that Trump did in 1.

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Anonymous 1w

When did Obama starve immigrants?

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Anonymous 1w

The obama administration was quite literally against illegal immigration but people forget that

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Anonymous 1w

Being more evil about israel than trump. Like… we need to get rid of the system

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

He did, unfortunately

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Ok that’s just a random picture when did he do that?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

2014-2015 primarily

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Like post a source like an article title instead of random things.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/president-obama-wants-continue-imprisoning-immigrant-families

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

https://cimmcw.org/kids-in-cages-its-true-that-obama-built-the-cages-at-the-border-but-trumps-zero-tolerance-immigration-policy-had-no-precedent/

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

https://cmsny.org/publications/jmhs-weeping-playtime-others/

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Ok nothing in the first article says anything about people starving

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

On the second article also says nothing about Obama starving immigrants maybe the NYT article it links does but has a pay wall.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/trump-child-immigrant-detention-no-toothpaste-obama.html

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Ok neither does the third lol.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Post a title for the fourth article I can’t find and can’t copy links.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I wanna be clear I’m not saying Obama was as bad as Trump in this regard. I’m just acknowledging bad policy for what it is

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

You haven’t shown bad policy I find that every criticism of dems is just majorly overblown.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

“Freezing overcrowded and filthy cells… no access to beds, soap, showers, adequate meals and water”

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

“…medical care, and lawyers in violation of constitutional standards and Border Patrols own policies”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Yes that’s the claim of the lawsuit which might have some merit but 1. Assuming it’s true that doesn’t mean it’s an obama policy is had to guess these facilities have historically not great conditions. 2. That’s not people starving unless by starving we mean someone didn’t have access to nutritionally adequate food, not starving to death.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Yes illegal immigration is bad. Having a underclass population here and not being able to regulate who comes in is bad.

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